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26 minutes ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

What is the competition format in the 2 new classes? i was looking at the full schedule and see something called windsurfing marathon, and only 3 days for the kite, but cannot find any good explanation anywhere

it's quite a mess :popcorn:

 

in windsurfing, now the preliminary races are of 3 types: the classic fleet, the slalom course and 1 longer fleet race (called Marathon)

at the end of the prelims, the best sailor advances directly to the final, the 2nd and 3rd ranked advance to the semifinal and the remaining 7 of the top 10 (the actual medal contenders) go through to the quarterfinal race

the top 2 of the quarterfinal advance to the semifinal, then the top 2 of the semifinal advance to the final, where the 3 finalists decide which medal color they get

 

in kitesurfing, after the prelims, the top 2 advance to the final, meanwhile the remaining 8 among the top 10 are divided into 2 semis of 4 sailors each (serpentine system is normally used)

here the best of the 4 starts with 2 "ghost wins", the 2nd best with 1 "ghost win" and the other two with no bonus points

the 1st to get to 3 wins (ghost wins included, of course) wins the semifinal round and advance to the final, where we have the same scheme: the 1st of the prelims starts with 2 "ghost wins", the 2nd with 1 "ghost win" and the 2 kitesurfers coming from the semis with 0 bonus points

once again, the 1st to 3 total wins is the champion, then for the remaining places it's up to the number of wins in the final round and in case of a tie, the actual placing in the last regatta is the decider

 

I think we'll see a lot of occasional viewers (and also occasional broadcasters/reporters) with some strong headache come the Olympic thanks to these crazy formats :crazy: :facepalm:

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2023 Youth Sailing World Championships (:BRA Buzios)

 

men's Windsurfer (iQFOiL)

Gold: :POL Stanislaw Trepczynski
Silver: :ITA Leonardo Tomasini
Bronze: :FRA Noè Garandeau


women's Windsurfer (iQFOiL)

Gold: :CZE Kristyna Pinosova
Silver: :SLO Lina Erzen
Bronze: :GBR Darcey Shaw


men's Kiteboarding (Formula Kite)

Gold: :SGP Maximilian Maeder
Silver: :CHN Huang Qibin
Bronze: :ITA Riccardo Pianosi


women's Kiteboarding (Formula Kite)

Gold: :TUR Derin Atakan
Silver: :ARG Catalina Turienzo
Bronze: :ISR Mika Kafri


men's One-Person Dinghy (ILCA 6)

Gold: :ITA Mattia Cesana
Silver: :SLO Luka Zabukovec
Bronze: :POR Joao Pontes


women's One-Person Dinghy (ILCA 6)

Gold: :NED Roos Wind
Silver: :ITA Emma Mattivi
Bronze: :IRL Sienna Wright


men's/mixed Two-Person Dinghy (420)

Gold: :ITA Quan Cardi & Mattia Tognocchi
Silver: :FRA Zou Schemmel & Jean-Philippe Boudard
Bronze: :ESP Miguel Angel Morales Hernandez & Alejandro Martin


women's Two-Person Dinghy (420)

Gold: :BRA Joana Faulhaber Tostes Antunes Gonçalves & Gabriela Vassel
Silver: :ISR Maayan Shemesh & Emilie Louviot
Bronze: :GRE Kerkezou Iakovina & Giannouli Danai


men's/mixed Skiff (29er)

Gold: :FRA Hugo Revil & Karl Devaux
Silver: :ITA Alex Demurtas & Giovanni Santi
Bronze: :IRL Ben O'Shaughnessy & Ethan Spain


women's Skiff (29er)

Gold: :POL Ewa Lewandowska & Julia Maria Zmudzinska
Silver: :FRA Sarah Jannin & Fleur Babin
Bronze: :HUN Boroka Feher & Szonja Feher


mixed Two-Person Multihull (Nacra 15)

Gold: :ESP Daniel Garcia De La Casas & Nora Garcia De La Casas
Silver: :USA Cody Roe & Brooke Mertz
Bronze: :SUI Clement Guignard & Marie Mazuay

 

 

Full Results

https://worldsailingywc.org/notice-board/

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Medal Table

 

:ITA  2 / 3 / 1
:POL  2 / 0 / 0
:FRA  1 / 2 / 1
:ESP  1 / 0 / 1
:BRA  1 / 0 / 0
:CZE  1 / 0 / 0
:NED  1 / 0 / 0
:SGP  1 / 0 / 0
:TUR  1 / 0 / 0
:SLO  0 / 2 / 0
:ISR  0 / 1 / 1
:ARG  0 / 1 / 0
:CHN  0 / 1 / 0
:USA  0 / 1 / 0
:IRL  0 / 0 / 2
:GBR  0 / 0 / 1
:GRE  0 / 0 / 1
:HUN  0 / 0 / 1
:POR  0 / 0 / 1
:SUI  0 / 0 / 1

 

 

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NBC posted a write-up about Daniela Moroz, which our Czech/Slovak users might find interesting: https://www.nbcsports.com/olympics/news/daniela-moroz-sailing-kite-olympics

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