Men's Football FIFA World Cup 2022

[Quaker2001 258]

20 hours ago, Federer91 said:

One thing is for sure so far, people who wouldn't normally care about the WC, or football in general are very vocal these past 2 weeks. Good thing we talk a lot at work about the teams and players, because when i go "online" the football is a little side thing. Hopefully this will change, when the matches actually start.

It's a lot like the Olympics that way.  All we ever hear about in the lead up to the games is negative media stories.  For Beijing 2022, those all got amplified.  But once the Olympics started, the focus was rightfully on the athletes and the competition.  I'm sure that will happen to a large extent here.  There's a lot of down time between matches though, so I'm sure we'll still hear a lot from fans who are on the ground in Qatar, especially if they're unhappy with their experiences there

[heywoodu 16,004]

4 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

It's a lot like the Olympics that way.  All we ever hear about in the lead up to the games is negative media stories.  For Beijing 2022, those all got amplified.  But once the Olympics started, the focus was rightfully on the athletes and the competition.  I'm sure that will happen to a large extent here.  There's a lot of down time between matches though, so I'm sure we'll still hear a lot from fans who are on the ground in Qatar, especially if they're unhappy with their experiences there

To be fair, for Beijing 2022 the focus towards, during and after the Olympics was on how much of a shitty Olympics it was  

 

Partially because of the choice of location, but of course a large part due to what's largely a matter of force majeure (COVID-19). Even now when thinking back about Beijing 2022, I mostly think about how the only reason to remember them is how empty and obscure it all felt.

Edited November 19, 2022 by heywoodu

[Quaker2001 258]

2 hours ago, Monzanator said:

 

Nobody in Poland would even consider Budweiser a "beer" though. The who ra-ra stuff will go away sooner rather than later, does anyone remember the protests in 2014 when Brazil was under presssure to "hide" some of the favela poverty? Yeah, does anyone remember that eight years later? Will anyone care about Qatar's Islamic rules in 30 days time? Of course not. So let's don't pretend any uproar here will change anything because it won't.

Again, it's the same story with the Olympics.  Speaking of Brazil, remember in 2016 when everyone was scared that Zika was going to be a major problem or that the water quality in Rio was going to make everyone sick?  Actually, most people probably don't because no one talked about it after the Olympics, especially since it was a non-issue.

 

In the lead-up to the 2022 Olympics, a lot of people were talking about human rights issues in China.  Since February, I can probably count on 1 hand the number of times I've seen any mention of the Uighurs.  I guess that stopped being a think after China was out of the spotlight.

 

So yes, it'll be the same deal here.  About 5 minutes after the World Cup ends, no one is going to care about Qatar anymore.  Migrant worker deaths will be yesterday's news.  People who are in an uproar over these things will move onto some other political issue.  And the cycle will start over again until the next host country starts getting talked about.

[heywoodu 16,004]

2 minutes ago, Quaker2001 said:

And the cycle will start over again until the next host country starts getting talked about.

2024 Olympics in France. Oh boy, if only we had someone from a former French colony here to go on about that!  

[Quaker2001 258]

6 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

To be fair, for Beijing 2022 the focus towards, during and after the Olympics was on how much of a shitty Olympics it was  

 

Partially because of the choice of location, but of course a large part due to what's largely a matter of force majeure (COVID-19). Even now when thinking back about Beijing 2022, I mostly think about how the only reason to remember them is how empty and obscure it all felt.

Similar to Tokyo, there was all sorts of fear-mongering that the Olympics were going to become a mass super-spreader event and it was irresponsible to hold it in the first place.  With both Olympics, there was news of positive cases (and especially in the case of Beijing, about all the prevention and containment measures), but the competition was largely unaffected and every event was held to completion.  That was no small feat especially with Tokyo before vaccinations were as readily available.

 

No question the Beijing games were almost completely devoid of any real joy.  Who knows what it would have looked like if not for COVID and China did get to put their best foot forward

[hckošice 15,525]

18 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

2024 Olympics in France. Oh boy, if only we had someone from a former French colony here to go on about that!  

Fun fact: when I read french colony, always the first which came to my mind are the Kerguelen Islands

[hckošice 15,525]

24 hours to the first win and first step to the trophy

 

 

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[vlad 392]

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21 hours ago, Federer91 said:

One thing is for sure so far, people who wouldn't normally care about the WC, or football in general are very vocal these past 2 weeks. Good thing we talk a lot at work about the teams and players, because when i go "online" the football is a little side thing. Hopefully this will change, when the matches actually start.

It's certainly not just people who wouldn't normally care about the WC. I know that Denmark is one of the more extreme cases (of the participating nations I believe only Germany are at more or less the same level) but also lots of huge football fans are very clearly saying that they won't be watching while some others may just watch Denmark's mathes. At least here in Denmark, I doubt that the criticism will become silent when the games start.

[thepharoah 2,413]

19 minutes ago, hckošice said:

24 hours to the first win and first step to the trophy

 

 

I predict 1-0 to Qatar and the goal will come in 2nd half  But what if Ecuador players took money and won the game at the end   I'm joking ofc

Edited November 19, 2022 by thepharoah