Athletics 2019 Discussion Thread

[Dragon 2,059]

39 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

I read something about Strasbourg Court - can't it cancel CAS as it's based in Switzerland?

Edit - I asked a lawyer friend and he said the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg can overrule a Swiss decision like the one CAS made.

Edited May 1, 2019 by Dragon

[JoshMartini007 2,813]

1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

I mean the obvious solution to me is to introduce a third gender category for every event, the open category.

 

It would be more inclusive, but I doubt the IOC will do it.

[Dragon 2,059]

Just now, JoshMartini007 said:

 

It would be more inclusive, but I doubt the IOC will do it.

Define who would compete in the "open" category

[JoshMartini007 2,813]

Just now, Dragon said:

Define who would compete in the "open" category

 

Everyone of course

[Dragon 2,059]

Just now, JoshMartini007 said:

 

Everyone of course

So men would have two categories they could win and women only one? Not really fair, is it?

[ChandlerMne 1,210]

So,for some of you its normal to have her competing with testosterone level around 10,15 or even higher with other girls with testosterone level of 2,3 or 5? And knowing what testosterone is, how it works and knowing that its also a doping? Wow. 

[Xander 53]

25 минут назад, Dragon сказал:

So men would have two categories they could win and women only one? Not really fair, is it?

There's always a "brilliant" statement: "such discrimination is a necessary, reasonable and proportionate means of achieving the IAAF's aim".

 

Edited May 1, 2019 by Xander

[Federer91 3,089]

Just now, ChandlerMne said:

So,for some of you its normal to have her competing with testosterone level around 10,15 or even higher with other girls with testosterone level of 2,3 or 5? And knowing what testosterone is, how it works and knowing that its also a doping? Wow. 

 

That is why, there are only 3 logical options:

1) Compete with the men

2) Allow performance enhancing in sport

3) Choose another career 

[JoshMartini007 2,813]

We could follow the Paralympics lead and create a class system for different levels of testosterone (ignoring that there's more than testosterone levels that dictates advantage in sports)

[Xander 53]

Black athletes should be next according to such logic. The ex-Soviet camp (especially Russia and its satellites) talks all the time that black athletes have physical advantage over white athletes No black marathoners, no black sprinters. Yeah, it's discriminative, but... we won't win otherwise.

"We aren't racists... we just want to ban all blacks". It's not a sarcasm, this is real attitude even among certain coaches & athletes. The laboratory can issue "the right" decision and the case is closed. They would have done it already if not USA.

 

Btw, one of our current F800m runners wrote "Those blacks!" in her FB after she lost and then deleted it. She also liked a racist comment.