Doping Cases and Bans Thread (2016 & 2017)

[heywoodu 15,174]

1 hour ago, Dimast said:

Where is the "fighters against doping" Heywoodo and Gianlu33? Tell me why IOC punished the speed skaters

You dont know what's really going on. Athletes are killed for nothing and your propaganda doesnt tell you this. For you, all the Russian deceivers and doppers

I have a feeling any sort of discussion is not possible, since whatever we would say, you would scream conspiracy, dark magic or whatever anyway

 

 

[heywoodu 15,174]

58 minutes ago, Dragon said:

 

Unless you believe WADA is telling lies?

Asking this question is answering it. 

[heywoodu 15,174]

1 hour ago, Dimast said:

 Who would doubt that. Say hello to Bradley Wiggins and other British doppers who are under the roof of WADA and Craig Reedy

The whole dealings around Team Sky are incredibly shady as well, and the way it is being handled is ridiculous (there should be a huge investigation into this case, because Team Sky smells like shit from 10 miles away), but it has nothing to do with the case of Russian systematic doping

 

[NearPup 3,072]

Team Sky and Bradley Wiggins are at the very least unethical. It’s possible they didn’t break any ruled, their use of TUEs shady but probably within what is allowed.

 

But I don’t believe for one second the British government helped cover up for them. I also don’t believe for one second this is a conspiracy to meddle in the Russian presidential election. The Panama papers being leaked to hurt the Russian government, sure. But a state sanctioned doping program doesn’t even register in people’s opinion of Putin. Either you believe he is shady and it’s just the latest in a long line of transgressions or you don’t believe he is shady and no evidence of state sponsored doping would change your mind about him anyway.

 

It would have been a lot better for the IOC to sweep this under the rug. The fact they aren’t shows they really believe in the evidence they have gattered. Believe it or not people in the West don’t want Russian athletes to miss the Winter Olympics. NBC isn’t out there beating the drum of banning Russians. Trump probably doesn’t even know there is a Russian doping scandal, so the idea this is some US lead conspiracy is ridiculous. It’s not good for anybody if Russia is banned or made to compete neutrally.

Edited November 24, 2017 by NearPup

[Xander 53]

Russia 'drug cheats' set to cast shadow over World Cup draw as whistleblower reveals he has shocking evidence that proves Russian footballers were involved in state-sponsored doping:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5117467/Russia-drug-cheats-set-cast-shadow-World-Cup-draw.html

 

+ Russian minister of Sports was obviously involved too:

 

'Mutko came to the [Sochi] Olympic village,' says Walden. 'Grigory has memos he has kept that were written for Mutko's benefit. Among them are one written after [a revelatory German] documentary came out, with my client advising what would happen if there was a retesting of stored Olympic samples, and that there was a problem with race-walking.' 

Sportsmail has one of those memos.

'There are hundreds and hundreds of data points [incidents] with Mutko, and I must stress Nagornykh as well,' Walden says. 'One of the things that was outrageous and shocking to me was a conversation my client had in 2013 in which it was suggested he [Rodchenkov] should 'spike' a Ukrainian rival's urine to make it look dirty and allow a Russian to win. That was something my client found an excuse not to do. This will be reported when the Schmid affidavit comes out.'

[Dunadan 1,103]

Sergei CHUDINOV, Aleksei NEGODAILO, Dmitrii TRUNENKOV, Yana ROMANOVA and Olga VILUKHINA are found to have committed anti-doping rule violations pursuant to Article 2 of The International Olympic Committee Anti-Doping Rules applicable to the XXII Olympic Winter Games in Sochi, in 2014, and are disqualified from the events in which they participated. In addition, the five athletes are declared ineligible to be accredited in any capacity for all editions of the Games of the Olympiad and the Olympic Winter Games subsequent to the Olympic Winter Games Sochi 2014.

[phelps 7,706]

20 minutes ago, Dunadan said:

Sergei CHUDINOV, Aleksei NEGODAILO, Dmitrii TRUNENKOV, Yana ROMANOVA and Olga VILUKHINA are found to have committed anti-doping rule violations pursuant to Article 2 of The International Olympic Committee Anti-Doping Rules applicable to the XXII Olympic Winter Games in Sochi, in 2014, and are disqualified from the events in which they participated. In addition, the five athletes are declared ineligible to be accredited in any capacity for all editions of the Games of the Olympiad and the Olympic Winter Games subsequent to the Olympic Winter Games Sochi 2014.

 

IOC page about this...

https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-sanctions-five-russian-athletes-and-publishes-first-full-decision-as-part-of-the-oswald-commission-findings

 

on this page there's also the final chapter of Alexader Legkov's case...the .pdf document on his disqualification has 46 pages...

[Dragon 1,847]

https://apnews.com/592a87599c244c9c90180bc341e90502/2-Russian-athletes-disqualified-from-Olympics-for-doping

The Russian track and field federation says two more of its athletes have been disqualified from the Olympics for doping.

The federation says relay medalist Yulia Gushchina and long jumper Anna Nazarova were caught when their samples from the 2012 Olympics were retested.

Gushchina had already been stripped of one gold and two silver relay medals from the 2008 and 2012 Olympics because various teammates were banned for doping offenses.

Nazarova finished fifth in the long jump.

More than 100 athletes have been disqualified from the 2008 and 2012 Olympics since the International Olympic Committee launched a wave of retests last year.

Track and field has been the sport worst affected, and Russia has been the country with the most doping cases.

[Dragon 1,847]

The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) announces that 8 riders were notified of an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) in samples during the Vuelta a Colombia 2017.

The riders Luis Alberto Largo Quintero, Jonathan Felipe Paredes Hernandez, Edward Fabian Diaz Cardenas, Fabio Nelson Montenegro Forero, Luis Camargo Flechas, Fabian Robinson Lopez Rivera and Oscar Soliz Vilca were notified of an AAF of CERA* in blood samples collected on 1 and 2 August 2017.

The rider Juan Carlos Cadena Sastoque was notified of an AAF of 19-noretiocholanolone and 19-norandrosterone** in a urine sample provided on 11 August 2017

[heywoodu 15,174]

2 hours ago, Dragon said:

The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) announces that 8 riders were notified of an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) in samples during the Vuelta a Colombia 2017.

Surprising  

 

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