Doping Cases and Bans Thread (2016 & 2017)

[vovanA 191]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:21 PM, Maxim Fastovsky said:

I believe there are evidence that were presented to ioc and wada.  Its not for us to see.  Its for them to see and decide whats next

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and if they are not presented? unpublic legal processes are something out of the modern world actually. sport is for audience and we are to see that everything clear

[Canada4thewin 90]

Well at the end of the day, it shows that cheating doesn't pay at all.

 

It's not worth it, at the end.  

[tigersay 30]

Oh, what do we have now again? Usual press conference about doping in Russia with fairy tales about Chivas and FSB with no proofs. Come on, all the athletes with medals in Sochi were tested many times and showed good results through all the season. It was not interesting at all to hear all these things about politics once again.

[Canada4thewin 90]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:43 PM, tigersay said:

Oh, what do we have now again? Usual press conference about doping in Russia with fairy tales about Chivas and FSB with no proofs. Come on, all the athletes with medals in Sochi were tested many times and showed good results through all the season. It was not interesting at all to hear all these things about politics once again.

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Well why would they lie about this?

It's not in their interest and certainly not in the interest of all the athletes.

 

[heywoodu 15,353]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:43 PM, tigersay said:

Oh, what do we have now again? Usual press conference about doping in Russia with fairy tales about Chivas and FSB with no proofs. Come on, all the athletes with medals in Sochi were tested many times and showed good results through all the season. It was not interesting at all to hear all these things about politics once again.

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Tested many times? That might be the case, but if the ministry can decide that a positive test suddenly becomes a negative test, that doesn't mean so much.

[De_Gambassi 1,225]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:46 PM, Canada4thewin said:

Well why would they lie about this?

It's not in their interest and certainly not in the interest of all the athletes.

 

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Well, he has a point somehow. Why would Russians need such a machinery during the olympics when they success not to be caught during the rest of the season whithout using it.

 

Top - doping - athletes don't need to switch samples, they - usualy - never test positive to begin with.

 

 

[heywoodu 15,353]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:46 PM, Canada4thewin said:

Well why would they lie about this?

It's not in their interest and certainly not in the interest of all the athletes.

 

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I doubt WADA has many interests, but IOC has. However, I'm guessing it's in their interest to see Russia compete, to avoid Rio 2016 going in the books as "The Olympics without Russia". Which is why I guess Russia will be at the Olympics: banning them would be too costly so I'm guessing they'll be lucky.

[FC Mezhgorye 135]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:46 PM, Canada4thewin said:

Well why would they lie about this?

It's not in their interest and certainly not in the interest of all the athletes.

 

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Just business. More scandals, more money for WADA

[tigersay 30]

  On 7/18/2016 at 3:53 PM, heywoodu said:

Tested many times? That might be the case, but if the ministry can decide that a positive test suddenly becomes a negative test, that doesn't mean so much.

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I don't really believe that every  test of Russian athlete from Lahti, Altenberg, Ruhpolding and other places goes straight to the Russian Ministry. If so, I would name Putin the most important politician in the world just that moment - nobody had such a big influence in all the sports history))

[carivan 73]

Russian athletes based outside of Russia like Klishina should be allowed to compete. Ban the rest.