thiago_simoes

Nice, a medal for Turkey. After all the bad luck from the previous day, it's good to see they have a medal now.

Oh, that was quick. 6 competitors still to go on parallel bars but we already know the gold medal is going to go to China. This score is just unbeatable.

Well, we can see history being made once again today in a number of ways. 1) Canada might win a medal in women's artistic gymnastics for the first time. Canada has a gold medal in every other discipline at the Olympics: men's artistic gymnastics, rhythmic gymnastics and trampoline. 2) Australia can win a medal in artistic gymnastics for the first time. The nation only has one silver medal in trampoline. 3) Kazakhstan could win its first ever medal in gymnastics. After a fourth place in rhythmic gymnastics in 2004, I've been rooting for Kazakhstan, but now is the first time in 17 years that it's actually possible to win a medal. 4) Turkey could also win its first ever medal in gymnastics. Along with Israel, Armenia and the Philippines, Turkey is part of the most recent wave of nations with great results in artistic gymnastics. In my opinion, Turkish gymnasts are the most talented of the bunch, but the finals have been very disappointing so far. This could change today. 5) If Pakhnyuk fails to win a medal today, chances are that Ukraine will end up not winning a medal in gymnastics for the first time since its independence. I know that rhythmic gymnastics will be contested soon, but Ukraine has slim chances at best and only with the group. Still, it's merely a 1% chance. In reality, Pakhnyuk is their last realistic chance for a medal this year.

Estou cautelosamente otimista. 12 medalhas conquistadas e mais 2 garantidas no boxe. SF no vôlei masculino e no futebol. Beatriz pode ir à semi hoje no boxe. À noite tem Ana Marcela. Tô achando que vai passar de 20 medalhas até.

Iordache is out of beam finals. I'm heartbroken. This is not how artistic gymnastics at this OG was supposed to end. Really, really sad.

Yes, @heywoodumentioned it. When he was 10 months old, he hit a pan with boiling oil and it fell over his head and shoulders. He was hospitalized for months. Also, the last time that a Brazilian individual won a medal on track at the Olympics was in 1988, so he broke a long lasting curse for us.

Here I go crying again after a Brazilian who really deserved a medal managed to earn one.

My heart wants Saraiva, Black and Iordache on the beam podium, with Biles hitting the routine but not winning a medal (she already got one here, after all). Of course what my heart wants is not what we will get in this universe. Maybe in a different reality.

I learned never to trust the Chinese girls. If they hit, they will score BIG and win gold. But that's a big if when it comes to China.

We expected no medals from judo this time, so 2 medals is pretty good. The main "disappointments" so far have been skateboarding and surfing. We expected 6 or 7 medals in these sports, but we only got 3. Needless to say, our expectations were unrealistic. We don't have many chances for medals left -- 1 in football, 1 in sailing, 2 in canoeing, 1 in open water swimming, 4 in volleyball and beach volleyball, 2 in athletics, 1 in boxing. We need 8 out of these 12 medal chances to actually become real medals, something that will not be easy at all, for us to reach the goal of winning 20 total medals. There's also a chance in gymnastics, but it's so unlikely I will not even count towards our real chances.

The overall score depends a lot on the angle of the shoulders in some skills, and how long gymnasts can hold a static position, so the fluctuation in scores is perfectly normal. It's still shocking that he had his "worse" performance in a long time in the most important night of the whole quad. Anyway, this is how sport works. A second medal is a great achievement on this apparatus, anyway, and the curse of rings champions not repeating their gold medals after 1972 continues.

I have to say that Cuba's current 2-3-3 is shocking. So far, this has been the best ever Olympics for Brazil at 2-3-5 on day 10, and even though we will not get more gold medals than in Rio and, in the end, might not even win as many total medals as in Rio, at least until now we have had our best Olympics ever. And even our best performance ever is marginally ahead of Cuba who was totally discredited before the OG started.

Salto masculino: acertei o campeão Argolas: acertei o campeão e os outros dois medalhistas, mas em ordem trocada Salto feminino: acertei o ouro e o bronze Solo feminino: acertei duas medalhistas, mas fora da ordem Tá bom até! Espero agora ter errado COMPLETAMENTE o pódio de trave e quem sabe a Flavinha entrar nele. Hehehe.

I'm sure most people here will be overjoyed, but I'm actually heartbroken. I never wished her to win a medal, but I wanted her to have a good performance and keep her chin up. Of course she must have been through lots of verbal abuse to get to this point, and this makes one's mind crumble. Transgender people are attacked on a daily basis and their very existence is always threatened. Being a transgender athlete competing at the Olympics for the first time and receiving so much backlash of course must have had a big impact on her mental toughness.

Unpolished is one thing, but he almost got the vault devalued because he underrotated it. This should have been penalized a lot more than it was. But this is just my opinion, of course.

Yulo... He's young and he's going to be in Paris for sure, but I wish he had a medal here along with Davtyan. Well, history for . I'm happy with that. Abliazin did well and deserved silver. I'm not so sure Shin deserved gold.

Oh, bummer. The South Korean guy is now in first place, despite an underrotated first vault. Not my favorite.

This vault final is not looking good, but I'm pretty happy with Davtyan as the Olympic champion, if things don't change.

I haven't watched any of the finals yet, but the results are indeed shocking. At least Greece got medal in men's long jump, so the day was not a tragedy for you. I don't know what happened to Petrounias, but at least he got a medal, so there's still reason to celebrate. Without having watched the floor final, I have to say the results of the floor final are... interesting. Jade Carey an Olympic Champion? Color me surprised. Ferrari with a medal? Wow. Murakami with a medal? What a surprise... Ok, the last one was ironic. I knew FIG was going to throw a medal on her lap sooner or later here. And how on Earth could Melnikova get another medal on floor? Won't FIG ever stop overscoring Melnikova?

Yes, that's exactly the point.

1) Yes, you're on the right track. Yurchenko is a kind of entry where a gymnast performs a roundoff to the vault table and approaches the apparatus on his/her back. What she does after that determines the difficulty score, of course. Since Carey had already performed the Yurchenko entry and only decided to perform a tuck somersault out of it, she was not allowed to perform another vault with the same entry, like the Amanar, without getting a hefty deduction. She did so anyway probably because she wanted to show the world that she can perform that vault, but it was already too late, and she knew that she would finish last, anyway. My heart breaks every time I see her disappointed face when I rewatch the video. Poor girl. 2) Once again, handspring is just the entry of the vault, so what the gymnast does after the handspring is what determines the difficulty value. Yeo performs a handspring followed by one somersault in layout position with two twists. Effectively, it's the same entry as a Produnova, so she wouldn't be allowed to perform a Produnova as her second vault, for example. The Produnova disappeared from event finals because the Code of Points was changed. First, it was downgraded to 6.4, which is still more difficult than any of the vaults performed today, but still not worth the risk if the execution is not good. Second, there's a new rule that vaults where gymnasts land on their feet and another part of their bodies at the same time (i.e., hitting their feet and their butt at the same time, which happened to a lot of the vaulters who performed a Produnova in the past) then the vault will be given a score of 0. This scared potential Produnova vaulters away.

If you mean rings, it's going to be a tough battle between Petrounias and Liu Yang. Then the battle for bronze will be tough between basically everyone else. And it was revealed today that Zanetti will perform a new dismount that will raise his difficulty score to 6.5, what could potentially put him into the mix for a medal, although I believe he will not challenge for gold. He'll be happy with a bronze medal, I'm sure. Thanks to his political positions and known episodes of homophobia, I sincerely hope he doesn't win a medal. Men's vault and women's floor could be literally anyone's game. Seriously, each and every person has the potential to win a medal. It's going to be very exciting to watch, I suppose. Shin and Asil have the most difficult vaults, so they should in theory have some sort of advantage compared to the rest of the field. On floor, Carey has the most difficult routine, but she usually is heavily deducted in her artistic performance, so it remains to be seen how judges will evaluate her. She's also supposed to perform the hardest skill on floor created by any woman, so if she hits that and the rest of her routine, even with strong deductions in artistic performance, there's no way she will not get a medal, in my opinion.

Yeo loses 0.5 on the landing of her second vault: 0.3 for a big hop + 0.1 for a small hop + 0.1 for another small hop. Her execution score was 8.733, which is okay. In qualifications she had 9.2 in execution, so if you deduct 0.5 from that, you get 8.7, which is basically what she got here (only 0.033 more this time). Yeo got a medal because her first vault was arguably the best of the whole event and had the biggest single score. Carey apparently miscounted her steps during her run, then she couldn't perform her roundoff entry the way she wanted and had to abort the vault. She was supposed to perform a Yurchenko Layout with two and a half twists, worth 5.8, but since she aborted the vault she only performed a Yurchenko tuck, worth 3.3, what killed her chances.

I understand your frustration, but it all comes down to what the Code of Points considers good execution. You see, in every skill we have to consider how cleanly it's performed in the air (legs glued together, toes pointed, clear body position in the air, great height and amplitude) and how well it is landed. One small step or small hop deducts -0.1, a medium/big step or hop deducts -0.3. Yeo had the hardest vault of the competition, worth 6.2, and she needs massive speed and air time to get it fully rotated, which she does. The deductions on landing, apart from steps and hops, also consider deep landings (up to -0.5 in deductions), but her landing was not that deep and probably avoided a bigger deduction. If the gymnast lands with her chest down, the deductions could be -0.1, -0.3 or -0.5. Moreno unfortunately loses -0.3 to -0.5 due to her low chest position. Her form in the air is also not as tidy as Yeo's, and her vaults are not that high. Deductions for the height of the vault can be massive, up to -0.8! There are lots of things to be balanced. That's why I mentioned that Zapata has poor execution, despite great landings today, because his body shape and leg positions are usually not good. Even so, he lost little to no tenths on landings and got a medal. Dolgopyat has much cleaner body shape in the air and even though some of his landings were not great, he still managed to lose as little as 0.1 in landings. Take Andrade for example: she only loses 0.2 (0.1 for each hop) on the landing of her second vault. It doesn't look good for us, of course, and one can imagine she will be deducted a lot more, but the Code of Points only allows for a 0.2 deduction (plus small 0.1 deductions for things like deviation from a straight line and so on). When it comes to the more hefty deductions like height and dynamics of the vault, Skinner loses a lot while Andrade loses very little. This is also the same for Yeo and Moreno.

10 medalhas até agora + 2 garantidas no boxe. Das que ainda faltam, acredito em 2 no vôlei/vôlei de praia, 1 no boxe, 1 na canoagem, 1 no futebol, 1 nas águas abertas, 1 no atletismo, 1 na ginástica e 1 na vela. Ginástica e canoagem podem dar até mais, na verdade, e a Ana Marcela talvez esteja sendo superestimada... Mas vai que.