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Oof. What a fluke from D'Almeida. I can't blame him because this sport is basically non-existent in Brazil, but it was hard to watch.

To be brutally honest, this is true. In a few years, I can't see this sport being part of the Olympics anymore. There's a reason why FIG is pushing Parkour a little bit too hard down our throats -- in my opinion, the plan is to remove trampoline from the Olympics and add Parkour. For me, the sooner trampoline leaves the program, the better. It hurts to say this, but it adds nothing to the Olympic program. Rhythmic gymnastics at least does its own thing, but performing acrobatics on a trampoline, as hard as it actually is, just doesn't seem to be very exciting after you watch an all-around competition in artistic gymnastics.

Mas, ao mesmo tempo, apareceu uma inesperada no boxe, a própria Rebeca no individual geral, o Scheffer com a natação, o Cargnin... Até a Mayra não era apontada como super chance de medalha. Acho que se fizermos um balanço entre chances perdidas e surpresas, estamos mais ou mesmo no número de medalhas que eram esperadas. Pra mim, decepção mesmo só com o Taekwondo. Não eram apontados como fonte de medalhas, mas depois do último mundial dava pra esperar uma medalhinha, sim. Se em 2016 apareceu do nada, em 2021 poderia muito bem vir. Agora, eu tô pensando mesmo que pra chegar a 20 medalhas, ao menos um dos esportes sem medalha na história precisaria surpreender. Tiro com arco, tênis e handebol seriam gratas surpresas, mas muito difíceis. Bem, o tênis só precisa de uma vitória agora, né? Vai que elas estejam inspiradas...

Sim, verdade. Tinha esquecido. Estou bem preocupado com nossas chances de ouro agora. Vôlei, ginástica, boxe e canoagem são as maiores chances, não? Rebeca depende só dela pra levar o ouro, mas não sei se a confederação vai deixá-la arriscar tudo pelo ouro ou se vão se manter mais conservadores pra garantir uma medalha. Isaquias acho que é a melhor chance que nos resta. Volêi é sempre uma incógnita. Se vier um ouro vai ser lucro. E no boxe é quase roleta russa.

Acho que chegar a 20 medalhas está cada vez mais difícil. Já temos 7 + 1 garantida no boxe. As chances futuras: Ginástica artística: 1 com quase certeza absoluta (Rebeca no salto, e aposto em ouro), 1 com chances médias (Rebeca no solo), 2 bem difíceis, mas não impossíveis (Zanetti nas argolas, Flávia na trave) e 1 quase, mas não totalmente, impossível (Caio no salto). Eu diria que virão mais 2 aí: Rebeca no salto e alguma das outras chances vai se converter em surpresa. Boxe: Pelo menos mais 1 com a Beatriz. Canoagem: 1 quase certeza, e mais 1 provável. Atletismo: Pelo menos uma boa chance com o Piu. Vôlei e vôlei de praia: Difícil prever, mas penso que 2 medalhas. Skate: Acredito em mais 1 ou 2. Vela: Ficando difícil, mas ainda aposto em 1. Futebol masculino: O Egito pode surpreender, mas acho que dá pra passar. Se passar, penso que leva 1 medalha. Tênis: Não creio em medalha, mas vai que. Outras surpresas: Acho que não virão mais. Ou seja, precisaríamos converter todas as boas chances em medalhas, ou então torcer por mais algumas zebras que são bastante improváveis.

2 medals for Brazil is something that no one expected. Judo is our most traditional sport at the Olympics, but things weren't looking good. Cargnin had a very lucky draw and made the most out of this opportunity, and Aguiar is a beast and the first woman with three Olympic medals in individual events. The heavyweight judokas who were sent to the Olympics have always been overestimated and I thought that Beatriz and David were better options, but of course our federation would choose household names instead of bold choices. A team medal will be impossible now. I'm sad for Maria Portela, but she fails every time she has to rise to the occasion, so that's what you get in the end. I'm happy with our medals, but I'm also kind of sad because the team has no chance for a medal at all.

Rebeca ganhou mais de 1 milhão de seguidores em menos de 24 horas. Coisa de 16 horas na verdade. Incrível! Eu acho que ela está no caminho pra se transformar num fenômeno cultural do mesmo nível que a Daiane dos Santos foi.

Acho que sou o único aqui que adora o uniforme de 2020. Pra mim, é o mais bonito já criado até hoje.

Thank you! According to the official website, no changes have been made to her floor routine score. The deductions are correct: -0.3 after her first tumbling pass, because she stepped with both feet out of bounds, and -0.1 in her last tumbling pass, because she stepped with only one foot. EDIT: There was a change in score after her balance beam routine, but not floor. Brazil challenged the difficulty score on beam and it was raised in 0.1, and in the end this was enough to move Rebeca from what would have been a bronze medal position to a silver medal position.

I've tried my best to look at this competition from a neutral perspective. I have to say I'm surprised with a silver medal for Rebeca. She didn't lose the gold medal; she earned the silver medal. The same can be said about Lee: she won because she hit, not because Rebeca didn't perform her best routine. This is how this sport works and there's a strong mental game going on. Lee was stronger in the mental game and this deserves all the praise in the world. It's not fair to compare Lee to anyone else that came before her. She's the Olympic champion and she deserved it. Period. Now, Rebeca had an awesome day. Her uneven bars routine was one of the best she has performed in her life and much, much better than the one in qualifications. Her vault and her floor were not the best, but they still received strong scores. That silver medal is a huge accomplishment on itself and given how close the competition was, I'm really surprised Rebeca managed to win it. I believe Melnikova had a score on floor much higher than she actually deserved. She had several small mistakes that most people can't immediately see, but those who know about how gymnastics is scored can see. Urazova deserved the bronze medal, in my opinion, but it wouldn't have made any difference for Russia overall, so there's not much point in arguing about this. The thing is I've always thought Melnikova is overscored and today it wasn't any different. Anyway, I'm very pleased with the results, of course, and even though this was not a gold medal for Brazil, it was still our first medal. Our national program is miles behind the US and Russian programs, so the fact that we even got a medal at all is mindblowing for me.

I've been waiting 17 years for this moment. I still can't believe this is not a dream, and I can't stop crying.

Yes, I know this is weird, but every single gymnast knows that saluting before and after his/her presentation is mandatory. I know it's frustrating to lose a gold medal, but there are lots of deductions in artistic gymnastics related to amplitude, dynamics, angles... I'm not aware of all of these deductions, to be honest, because there are far too many and I'm not even close to be as experienced as a judge. You should know that hosting an event also increases the chances for bigger scores for the host nation. This is a sport judged by humans, and it's almost impossible to completely eliminate personal preferences and even bias. In 2008, the Chinese gymnasts also received some pretty high scores. Just remember, for example, that Cheng Fei got a bronze medal on the balance beam completely out of nowhere and I still can't understand how she was scored that number until today.

Maybe he was a bit over scored, but not much. His vault was high, distant from the table and his form is mostly very polished. The most apparent deductions I see are a slight pike off the table (-0.1), not hitting the center line/deviation in flight (-0.1), uncontrolled landing (-0.1) and large step (-0.3). There might be other deductions in dynamics and height that I'm not capable of correctly pointing out, and of course there was a penalty of -0.1 for stepping with one foot out of bounds. 14.7 is an acceptable score for that vault, especially because the same criteria seems to have been applied to everybody else. Xiao was so excited after his horizontal bar routine that he forgot to salute to the judges and took a penalty of -0.3 in his final score. It's almost unbelievable that an experienced gymnast would forget about this in his final routine at the Olympics. Seriously, China has to reexamine their coaching staff because they're definitely not doing their job very well.

In 2016 each routine received a maximum of 2.5 in bonus for mandatory skills, but since 2017 this bonus was reduced to 2.0. So, multiply 0.5 by six routines and you have 3.0 points less in bonus points compared to 2016. In 2016 the scores of the medalists were: Uchimura: 92.365 Verniayev: 92.266 Whitlock: 90.641 This year the scores were: Hashimoto: 88.465 (+3.0 = 91.465) Xiao: 88.065 (+3.0 = 91.065) Nagornyy: 88.031 (+3.0 = 91.031) It was actually harder to win a medal this time than it was in 2016.

Xiao had 0.5 less in difficulty than Hashimoto in the horizontal bar. The execution was similar: 8.366 for Xiao and 8.433 for Hashimoto. It all came down to who performed the most difficult skills and, in the end, Xiao lost. There was also a 0.3 penalty for Xiao, but penalties are always a fault commited by the gymnast himself. So, he only has himself to blame for losing the gold medal. China absolutely needs to improve the difficulty of their gymnasts' routines and hopefully do better next time. Let's stop the accusations without supporting evidence. Gymnastics is not skateboarding or surfing.

What a heartbreaking loss for Maria Portela. It looks like she always does everything she can but every single time she falls short.

Brazilians had a rough time during the first week of the 2016 Olympics, and many of our gold medal favorites missed the podium entirely. We know how it feels, Japan. We know it.

You guys know I live and breathe this sport for decades now. Comaneci is not my GOAT either. She was excellent for her time, but anyone who knows a bit about how gymnastics is scored nowadays would be aware that her routines which received a perfect 10 score would not have received a perfect 10 in execution today. Of course, anachronistic comparisons are almost always very hard to do correctly, so it might be pointless to compare today's scoring sytem with the system used in the past, but if we want to determine who is the GOAT, these kinds of comparisons are inescapable. The whole "she's the first perfect 10 in history" actually masquerades what was essentially a completely different way to understand this sport back then. Of course this doesn't diminish her achievements as a gymnast. There's a number of legendary gymnasts in this sport: Caslavska, Korbut, Shushunova, Boginskaya and Silivas; more recently, Chusovitina, Khorkina, Mustafina and, of course, Biles. However, Latynina won medals in every event at a single edition of the World Championships and in a single edition of the Olympic Games. Besides, Latynina has 18 Olympic medals, something that Biles will probably never be able to achieve -- even if Biles wins every possible medal this year and every possible medal in 2024, she will still fall short, with 17 medals.

I've never seen her as the greatest of all time. When she goes to an edition of the Olympic Games and wins 6 medals -- all of the possible medals in women's competition -- like Silivas did in 1988, then she can say she's the greatest of all time. Will she manage to do it here? Let's see. She's undeniably a very strong and talented gymnast. She has won countless world titles. She has pushed the difficulty way, way up, beyond what anyone could expect for now. But the greatest of all time? That's debatable. This is mostly US media trying hard to make the rest of the world believe their athletes are the best. However, I'm worried about her mental health. The pressure on her shoulders is monumental and this is not a sport where gymnasts should compete when they feel unsafe or unsure about themselves. She did the right thing withdrawing from team finals because she needs to keep safe above everything else. And she knows that nothing will change what she has achieved so far.

After a gold medal for Brazil today, Russia pulling two shocking wins in artistic gymnastics, skateboarding and surfing making a very successful debut, gold medals for Bermuda and the Philippines, first-ever medal for Turkmenistan and chances for medals in artistic gymnastics for Brazil, I have to say this is the best edition of the Olympic Games ever.

I'm still in utter and complete shock. losing without Simone is not a shock. Of course, Simone withdrawing is alarming and something I would have never expected. But winning a team medal is a huge, massive surprise. I never trusted this team. I was wrong.

It looks like for every unexpected medal -- Cargnin in Judo, Hoefler in skateboarding and Scheffer in swimming -- we lose a medal that was previously thought to be easy to get -- Pâmela and Letícia in skateboarding, Medina in surfing.

On the one hand, I loved skateboarding and it's one of the five Olympic sports I'll focus on watching from now on. On the other hand, surfing is very boring to watch with or without Brazilians competing. It takes too long, the moments where it gets exciting are too few and far between and, to be honest, it's not even really that exciting. It's weird because this is a sport that belongs to the Summer Olympics, but I just can't force myself to watch it anymore. I'll just look for the results after the competition is over.

In all of the sports where athletes are awarded scores, Japan has been very generously scored. They lost the gold medal in artistic gymnastics today because their team is actually not that great, but judges still did everything they could to give some hope to Japan. It's way beyond the point where it can all be considered a coincidence or a boost thanks to home advantage by now. They are being blatantly and deliberately overscored everywhere.

LOL, after the whole debacle between Medina and the national federation, it's funny to see him missing the final. I hope Ítalo wins the gold medal now.