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  1. Oh, bummer. The South Korean guy is now in first place, despite an underrotated first vault. Not my favorite.
  2. This vault final is not looking good, but I'm pretty happy with Davtyan as the Olympic champion, if things don't change.
  3. I haven't watched any of the finals yet, but the results are indeed shocking. At least Greece got medal in men's long jump, so the day was not a tragedy for you. I don't know what happened to Petrounias, but at least he got a medal, so there's still reason to celebrate. Without having watched the floor final, I have to say the results of the floor final are... interesting. Jade Carey an Olympic Champion? Color me surprised. Ferrari with a medal? Wow. Murakami with a medal? What a surprise... Ok, the last one was ironic. I knew FIG was going to throw a medal on her lap sooner or later here. And how on Earth could Melnikova get another medal on floor? Won't FIG ever stop overscoring Melnikova?
  4. 1) Yes, you're on the right track. Yurchenko is a kind of entry where a gymnast performs a roundoff to the vault table and approaches the apparatus on his/her back. What she does after that determines the difficulty score, of course. Since Carey had already performed the Yurchenko entry and only decided to perform a tuck somersault out of it, she was not allowed to perform another vault with the same entry, like the Amanar, without getting a hefty deduction. She did so anyway probably because she wanted to show the world that she can perform that vault, but it was already too late, and she knew that she would finish last, anyway. My heart breaks every time I see her disappointed face when I rewatch the video. Poor girl. 2) Once again, handspring is just the entry of the vault, so what the gymnast does after the handspring is what determines the difficulty value. Yeo performs a handspring followed by one somersault in layout position with two twists. Effectively, it's the same entry as a Produnova, so she wouldn't be allowed to perform a Produnova as her second vault, for example. The Produnova disappeared from event finals because the Code of Points was changed. First, it was downgraded to 6.4, which is still more difficult than any of the vaults performed today, but still not worth the risk if the execution is not good. Second, there's a new rule that vaults where gymnasts land on their feet and another part of their bodies at the same time (i.e., hitting their feet and their butt at the same time, which happened to a lot of the vaulters who performed a Produnova in the past) then the vault will be given a score of 0. This scared potential Produnova vaulters away.
  5. If you mean rings, it's going to be a tough battle between Petrounias and Liu Yang. Then the battle for bronze will be tough between basically everyone else. And it was revealed today that Zanetti will perform a new dismount that will raise his difficulty score to 6.5, what could potentially put him into the mix for a medal, although I believe he will not challenge for gold. He'll be happy with a bronze medal, I'm sure. Thanks to his political positions and known episodes of homophobia, I sincerely hope he doesn't win a medal. Men's vault and women's floor could be literally anyone's game. Seriously, each and every person has the potential to win a medal. It's going to be very exciting to watch, I suppose. Shin and Asil have the most difficult vaults, so they should in theory have some sort of advantage compared to the rest of the field. On floor, Carey has the most difficult routine, but she usually is heavily deducted in her artistic performance, so it remains to be seen how judges will evaluate her. She's also supposed to perform the hardest skill on floor created by any woman, so if she hits that and the rest of her routine, even with strong deductions in artistic performance, there's no way she will not get a medal, in my opinion.
  6. Yeo loses 0.5 on the landing of her second vault: 0.3 for a big hop + 0.1 for a small hop + 0.1 for another small hop. Her execution score was 8.733, which is okay. In qualifications she had 9.2 in execution, so if you deduct 0.5 from that, you get 8.7, which is basically what she got here (only 0.033 more this time). Yeo got a medal because her first vault was arguably the best of the whole event and had the biggest single score. Carey apparently miscounted her steps during her run, then she couldn't perform her roundoff entry the way she wanted and had to abort the vault. She was supposed to perform a Yurchenko Layout with two and a half twists, worth 5.8, but since she aborted the vault she only performed a Yurchenko tuck, worth 3.3, what killed her chances.
  7. I understand your frustration, but it all comes down to what the Code of Points considers good execution. You see, in every skill we have to consider how cleanly it's performed in the air (legs glued together, toes pointed, clear body position in the air, great height and amplitude) and how well it is landed. One small step or small hop deducts -0.1, a medium/big step or hop deducts -0.3. Yeo had the hardest vault of the competition, worth 6.2, and she needs massive speed and air time to get it fully rotated, which she does. The deductions on landing, apart from steps and hops, also consider deep landings (up to -0.5 in deductions), but her landing was not that deep and probably avoided a bigger deduction. If the gymnast lands with her chest down, the deductions could be -0.1, -0.3 or -0.5. Moreno unfortunately loses -0.3 to -0.5 due to her low chest position. Her form in the air is also not as tidy as Yeo's, and her vaults are not that high. Deductions for the height of the vault can be massive, up to -0.8! There are lots of things to be balanced. That's why I mentioned that Zapata has poor execution, despite great landings today, because his body shape and leg positions are usually not good. Even so, he lost little to no tenths on landings and got a medal. Dolgopyat has much cleaner body shape in the air and even though some of his landings were not great, he still managed to lose as little as 0.1 in landings. Take Andrade for example: she only loses 0.2 (0.1 for each hop) on the landing of her second vault. It doesn't look good for us, of course, and one can imagine she will be deducted a lot more, but the Code of Points only allows for a 0.2 deduction (plus small 0.1 deductions for things like deviation from a straight line and so on). When it comes to the more hefty deductions like height and dynamics of the vault, Skinner loses a lot while Andrade loses very little. This is also the same for Yeo and Moreno.
  8. 10 medalhas até agora + 2 garantidas no boxe. Das que ainda faltam, acredito em 2 no vôlei/vôlei de praia, 1 no boxe, 1 na canoagem, 1 no futebol, 1 nas águas abertas, 1 no atletismo, 1 na ginástica e 1 na vela. Ginástica e canoagem podem dar até mais, na verdade, e a Ana Marcela talvez esteja sendo superestimada... Mas vai que.
  9. Lee got a medal in the end. Not a great final either. Many gymnasts had bigger scores in the all-around final than Lee had here: Melnikova, Urazova, Andrade, and Seitz tied this score. Bummer. Sad for Seitz.
  10. I'm crushed for Fan Yilin. I was rooting for her. Now, come on, Seitz! You deserve a medal after all these years!
  11. Another BIG choke for . Lee missed most, if not all, of her connections. Her routine depended on connected skills to raise the difficulty score, but she apparently got nervous and now she will most probably not even get a medal.
  12. First ever medals in artistic gymnastics for and today, first ever for a female gymnast for and first ever gold medal for a female gymnast for . How I wish could have been there... , and can still join. And can get its first ever gold medal in a few minutes.
  13. Their best chance for a medal is Brody Malone on the horizontal bar.
  14. Noooo! My favorite male gymnast here is McClenaghan. I can't believe he had a bad day.
  15. Yup, I'd say that should be impossible to beat. I'm really surprised. I expected or with a gold medal here, not . Amazing performance by Whitlock. Very impressive indeed!
  16. Well, now I can write a little bit more. I'm fully aware that Rebeca didn't have good landings. This is not the vault final I envisioned, to be honest. Beautiful form in the air, but the landings were not great. Still, a fair result, especially considering that Skinner's vaults are lower in height and not as great in execution -- except for the landings, which of course were better. But for those who don't understand, the landings on Rebeca's vaults were deducted around 0.1 to 0.3 each, so no big deal in the end. This is how the Code of Points works. Skinner did so well to keep her mental fortitude. She went from a retired gymnast after qualifications to an Olympic silver medalist. I'm not a fan of her political ideas, but as a gymnast her life story is very touching and she deserves this medal. Yeo Seo-jeong went through all the trouble to create a new vault, with the highest difficulty in the final and the biggest single score. I was following the tweets about the training sessions before this final, and Yeo crashed all her attempts, so the fact that she hit in the final and got a medal is amazing. Another fairy tale story here came true. Moreno had the best vaults in her career and missing a medal by such a small margin must be heartbreaking. I hope she sticks around for 2024, and I hope Olsen also keeps training because she has enough potential to be a medalist if she improves her execution. Her vaults were not the cleanest, but the difficulty was high. Carey had a terrible day. I'm glad she's okay, but it was hard to watch. Good news is that she will perform on floor finals and she's the favorite for the gold medal thanks to her level of difficulty alone, which is the highest among all competitors -- provided Biles decides not to compete there. Overall, a very interesting final with LOTS of hard vaults. This was probably the final with the highest combined level of difficulty across all competitors in Olympic history. Either this or Beijing, but I still think this takes the cake for the sheer number of Cheng vaults alone.
  17. Gold is gold! As soon as we have the pic with a medal, I'll change it. LOL.
  18. I told you guys Yeo Seo-jeong was going to get a bronze medal! AND GOLD FOR REBECA! YEEES!!
  19. This is the biggest choke I've seen in my life.
  20. Because FIG is stupid. At least in trampoline they go from lowest score in qualifications to highest score. In artistic gymnastics this random order in the finals make no sense.
  21. He should be happy with any medal at all, let alone silver. His execution is not good at all.
  22. This was probably the worst floor final in the history of this sport. Any of the medalists from 2016 would have made better Olympic champions than Dolgopyat.
  23. Bruno is so happy! He's been trying to get an Olympic medal for 10 years. He did everything he could for this medal. I can't believe he got it!
  24. A great final, really. I'm surprised with Paltrinieri not even making the podium. I thought he had it in the bag, but nope.
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