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Lot of irritating fourths, would like that habit to stop, but reasonably content. Diving looks likely to deliver no golds but several medals, the Rowers look very on point which could claw back a lot lost elsewhere. Wilby, Morgan and Anghared looked good for medley purposes (which with Peaty's covid may prove important), but they're gonna have to stick Joe Litchfield in a heat, and they really couldn't make their absolute lack of belief in him any more obvious. Jimmy Guy however seems to be on a tear, which is good. The shooting gold is a big bonus given the swimming frustrations (they really are not doing badly by historic standards, just losing out by bits). The horse people are doing pretty good, not least as Dressage in Tokyo was a bit meh compared to Rio and London. Archers have been, lets be unkind, shite. The Rugby teams not much better but there are structural problems there. Canoe is looking very good - we may not get a gold, but we seem to be on for some more medals with luck. Worthington's heart is clearly not in this at the moment, perhaps time to step away. Reilly however looks like a beast. The racing cyclists are also looking good so far..gold, silver, hugely unlucky 4th, impressive 5th, impressive 8th, and not a track pedal turned in anger yet. Gymnastics is amazingly lopsided. The guys are really showing well, the girls are nowhere, slaughtered by the injury curse. I will actually be disappointed if one of the GB boys doesn't get a top step at some point. judo and boxing have been shambolic but have not been big medal getters this cycle - but they'll need a serious debrief post games Badminton disappointing, tennis disappointing, but had low expectation of both. sailing - wilson looks strong, women's skiff looks poor, wait to see on the rest shooting, already above expectations, and perhaps sineoid or Amber can pick up something finally, am furious about the triathlon nonsense, could see it coming YEAR ago, utter, utter hubris by organisers putting aesthetic above the sport and now reaping what they sewed. this despite the fact that, frankly, a duathlon could play into GBR shoes, especially in the men's event.
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Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024 Ceremonies
mpjmcevoy replied to Benolympique's topic in Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024
Weak opening, strong finish. The Seine didn't work in that weather (and what does that downpour mean for Triathlon and OW swimming), the use of Paris in the dark did - perhaps they should have started later. The light show was fabulous, the music was largely great, if badly mimed - someone should have worked out the limits of close ups in an outdoor set. More Daft Punk required. The menage a trois segment I found a little ridiculous, indeed quite a lot of the show seemed, frankly, rather preoccupied with sex and sexuality which given the universalist family nature of the event overall was, in my opinion,a miscue - as was the drag last supper which seemed gratuitous and, worse, utterly random. A simple public display of gay affection in a 'city of love' context would have been very welcome, but it simply was too much 'sex' and not enough 'love' for the kind of show it was supposed to be. The cauldern ceremony was wonderful, and probably left the show feeling like it was better than on average it was - it finished strong. Very happy Riner got to share the 'Perec' return moment because iconic as she is, riner is a greater legend of sport in the round and he would have been my pick. The node to Rafa was well made, and the use of Zizou was very on point. Unlike London, while the multiculturalism of France was rightly celebrated, there didn't seem much reflection on where that multiculturalism came from and what the price of it was; London seemed to grapple with 'questions' better - at a push I'd say the French certainly upheld their motto, and recognised diversity, and that's great, but I preferred London (and Rio's) explicit acknowledgement that some of that diversity has threads back to a dark past, and that in a sense, it's not just celebrated, but a form of atonement. In other words, Paris was cool (in places) but London was smart. At what point will we finally be rid of Bach, the Rodrigo Borgia of IOC presidents? -
Artistic Gymnastics: Which Brit gets the most total points (all-around)? Jarman : Jake, Jo and Luke appear to be going for AA Badminton: Do Lane and Vendy win at least one game? Yes Boxing: Does Davison advance? Yes Canoe Slalom: Do they both get through the heats? No. Woods does. Cycling Road: Do we get a medal? Yes. Men's bronze. Diving: Medal today, yes or no? No, 5th Equestrian: Are the team in a medal position by the end of the day? Yes Hockey: Do we win our opener? No Rowing: Is it a clean sweep of advancing to the next round? Yes Shooting: Do the mixed relay team get to the final stage (top four)? No Swimming: How many RELAY medals do we get today? One, Men's 4 x 200 free bronze Tennis: How many of the four Brits win our games? Three
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In all honesty, two of the best four teams are gone. Fiji Ireland was a stone cold classic - as was NZL South Africa. Still, this tournament has been a great advertisement for the format, most 'casuals' i've spoken to have absolutely loved it, and a number have mentioned that it serves as almost a perfect lead in to the Olympics. I still don't agree with teams being already out before the Opening Ceremony, but the idea of using the Athletics Stadium in Week one for Sevens seems to work very well. Now if we could only get some of the energy- and the crowds - into the SVNS
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It was a complete brain fade all round, although I was having great difficulty understanding what the Ref's problem was. That said, it was interesting in the first half to see a ref actually call the blatant tackle and ruck infringements by the Kiwis that we've seen them do forever in both forms of the game...and then mysteriously stop doing so when they were clearly still 'at it', including the last turnover. But it still shouldn't have mattered, but for that brain fade. Ireland are a team that play smart to overcome the better strength and instincts of other teams. It's unforgivable they were so dumb in that one moment. Seems to my eyes that three of the best four teams have ended up in one group, and the reward for escaping as second place team is to face the best team, while the other two teams have to face each other again. It's all dreadfully similar to RWC 2023 - meanwhile, the winner of USA - Australia is going to get two shots at a medal! I expect Fiji to win and win handily, but there's no shame in that, we played very well in the group, beaten the Boks, scared the Blacks. Top 8 finish and a punchers chance of a miracle after a strong but frustrating group stage...not the worst Irish olympic performance.
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Men's Road Cycling UCI World Tour 2024 (Tour de France)
mpjmcevoy replied to Totallympics's topic in Cycling - Road
I think the 'triple crown' probably goes back to the Giro-Tour-WC season of Merckx, and perhaps a fanciful hat tip to horse racing v riding the 'iron horse' - the WC is a funny race in that it's not really any more prestigious than say Paris-Roubaix or L-B-L, indeed I think Pogacars achievement in Giro-Tour-LBL is arguably better, but because Mercks did it and others did not, it became a thing, and then Roche managed it by various larcenies. For a long while even the era of Giro-Tour doubles seemed to be over. Personally I thinking holding all three Grand Tours at the same time, even though not in one season, has a better claim to such a title - there is something interesting of the visual of the one rider with the three big jerseys, but I honestly prefer the recent tendancy to highlight 'range', as in multiple terrains. I'm a huge fan of Strade Bianche and the idea of it as a kind of alternative to both tarmac and pave as a test. And I like how many of the current batch of superstars are multi-discipline. Variety is the spice of life... -
In this sport, for whatever reason, 10 and 11 are kind of the seeding sweet spot - you avoid Korea till the final, and most of the big guns until the semi or quarter - there is a route to bronze in this set up that doesn't require beating one of the big two asian giants, albeit a very very long shot Bt GER bt MEX lose CHN Bt IND
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And once again the vaguaries of a rugby draw has put Ireland to the wheel. The three best teams here seem to be, on this evidence, Fiji, NZL, Ireland...yet the loser of NZL-Irl tomorrow is going to be stuck with a QF against Fiji. Meanwhile, South Africa, beaten by both, could yet sneak out a quarter against a relatively nervous looking Argentina... That said, if we somehow beat the Blacks, we could be staring into a USA, Samoa path to the final....
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Orangehair is obsessed with crises news about funding, constantly dragging stories with no funding implications to that subject. seems to have a bee in his bonnet about the subject, but its tedious for the rest of us to see the fantasies constantly and boringly repeated. It's almost a relief that there's some limited 'there there' in this case, though not for the reasons he's suggesting.
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With the best will in the world, causing distress is the point. A horse is, frankly, a pretty dumb animal. They aren't all really Mr Ed. It doesn't understand 'why' type instruction, it can't be cajoled or persuaded or bribed into doing new things it doesn't understand or naturally want to. Those artificial movements are trained in by repeat use of carrot and stick - a phrase that literally refers to equine traing. And it's a real stick, and it hurts and its supposed to. that's the grim truth. A horse is controlled with a bit, bridle and reins. Think about what that actually means. - a mouth bar pins the tongue, the horses head is held in place, and the implement is pulled, twisted and turned to direct the horse. this isn't shep, a dog who can learn whistles. Someone somewhere decried "my god, treating that poor horse like a circus elephant' Kiddo, the elephant is smarter, it's arguably more cruel to the elephant. But the idea is absolutely the same, and for the same reason. IF you can't stomach that - and many can't and its a legitimate view - then there's no point even following equestrian sports let alone dressage.
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Absolutely my reaction - didn't like it, don't really like dressage, was long aware of everyday abusive stuff on the continent, assumed GBR had not caught up with these nations without employing similar methods - think Team Sky and TUEs. Worth noting in context that the Wonderhorse of the age was a dutch horse, Totillas that was controversially bought for an absolute fortune by the Dutch great rivals the Germans, with MUCHOS MUCHOS bad feeling. The Horse never really got better, and died relatively young. The Dutch regularly complained, publically, that the Germans were 'ruining' the horse with rollkur and other practices. Yet the former dutch rider of totillas was using exactly those practices with all his horses. Always had been. In other words, Dutch hypocrisy in this area is not new, and they are far from innocent. They do the same shit - but they are the only ones who accuse others.
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Having now seen the video, the sport is screwed. Why? Because this is nothing compared to what goes on in most dressage stables regularly, especially on the continent - it is absolutely standard training procedure. IMHO Dujardin has taken 'one for the team' here rather than fess up that this is what dressage is - like one of the old fashioned doping cyclists who says nothing when caught, even though he knows all his rivals are at it..
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Men's Road Cycling UCI World Tour 2024 (Tour de France)
mpjmcevoy replied to Totallympics's topic in Cycling - Road
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It's an odd sport. a bit like F1, the rider is only as good as the horse. A good rider will do well regardless, but not win. Dujardin had an astonishing horse. She no longer has, but was returning to the top echelons. but the main gold medal shot is Lottie Fry. The reserve horse is not bad at all, and you could argue it doesn't hurt as much as it looks like it would. But the aim here is not, I suspect, the individual event, but the team event which historically has been where the Germans and Dutch excelled before GBR upset that apple cart out of nowhere in 2012. I would think sabotaging the team, rather than just eliminating the person, is the aim - any inquiry/investigation into Dujardin is going to suck in Hester too. IMHO Fry is still a strong bet for a medal in the individual, but the team are probably in trouble.
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