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Perez & Monge in the penalty box.

Monge looks to have walked off anyway. Yeah, why bother?

5 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

I’m going for Zhdzhiyebwo.

It's easier to write than pronounce. I give you 8/10 for the effort Extra point for remembering Polish "ł" is "w" in English

4 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Commentators all over the world will be praying Katerzyna Zdziebło does not play too prominent a role in the 20km walk.

 

Aha, going to be hard to get past the Great Wall of  

Ździebło is one of the most difficult words to pronounce in Polish. It means grass stem in English. There's no way any of the foreign commentators get her name right

England leads NIR 2:0 a half-time with 80% possession.

Norway had 1 shot on goal vs Austria in the first half. I suppose they are much worse these days than I thought and the Hegerberg return makes no difference at all.

8 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Strange thing is the countries like Fiji have much faster guys playing Rugby Sevens, but somehowthey never bring them here.

I assume rugby is more important in Fiji? All the fastest guys go into rugby, no need to waste their talents for something called athletics?

Austria takes the lead in 37th minute so Norway needs two goals now...

is faster than in 4x400 mixed. Quick! Get Martyn Rooney back from the couch!

Just now, freds77 said:

Big finish of the Polish team who was second to last at the half of the race.

Duszynski is in worse form than he was in 2021 and Baumgart is basically #4 among the Polish women.

and advance from mixed relay SF1.

So it's obvious Kaczmarek will replace Baumgart in the final.

Norbert Kobielski picked up a foot injury during one of the training jumps and has WD from the HJ quals.

Anna Kielbasinska won't start in the 4x400 mixed relay. She was supposed to be in the final line-up only but WA rules state there can only be one change from SF to Final and it will obviously happen with someone else. So Kielbasinska would have to run both SF & F or don't run at all. It will be the latter.

Business as usual in US politics restored. Joe Biden can stop pretending they don't need Saudi Arabia oil and human rights are more important or whatever

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62173934

8 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

BBC Coverage is already . If you like to watch lots of ex-athletes expressing banalities about modern athletics the BBC is for you.  If you want to watch athletics, VPN & YT.

I watched BBC athletics for two days once. Even Michael Johnson sounded bemused by the ammount of nonsense spoken by the other pundits. That was the last time I would ever watch athletics on BBC. It was unbereable to listen indeed.

1 minute ago, JoshMartini007 said:

 

I just wanted you to understand that this was not a case of being punished for a crime that people think today is unjust, but rather the rules/laws at the time were not followed. You see it in court cases where the police/lawyers didn't follow the process correctly.

I'm not interested in sports where lawyers decide what the final result is. Sorry to disappoint you.

Just now, JoshMartini007 said:

 

I don't understand, we "tamper with history" when we strip medals from dopers years later. This is no different, the IOC broke the rules they had at the time. This isn't some retrospective rule trying to be enforced.

 

I'm not gonna argue a case from 1912. If you want to retroactively change the results then go ahead. It won't make my life any harder. I see people only want to win the argument for the sake of it. Good job. You win the argument. You get a cookie or something

Who knows, maybe in 2178 people will wake up in a world when Ben Johnson is the 1988 Olympic gold medallist again

37 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Except that history is 100% subjective to views of those recording it. 
 

But is that what’s happening here? They violated their own rules at the time. The rules around amateurism were awful, but this case is more complex than that.

Schranz & Stenmark were banned on the same reasoning - they were deemed not amateurs. If IOC can change results from 110 years ago I won't be surprised if they change some of those 1970s or 1980s Olympic Games either and award Schranz and Stenmark honorary medals too. It's only a matter of time. The door for tampering with history has been kicked wide open with this decision. I wonder how many past results will be changed in the future now?

If the history is only subjective then was Yezhov on that canal bridge or was he not?

1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said:

Is it re-writing or correcting though? According to @Dragon, the IOC broke their own rules originally. 
 

 

I think it’s important to consider this as well. “They confirmed that Wieslander himself had never accepted the Olympic gold medal allocated to him, and had always been of the opinion that Jim Thorpe was the sole legitimate Olympic gold medallist. ”

I’d have to defer to @Dragon, but I believe there’s also some uncertainty about other athlete’s amateur credentials as well. Unless I’m mixing this up with something else or hearsay.

 

Its an incredibly unfortunate situation all the way around.

Will they give honorary gold OG medals to Karl Schranz or Ingemar Stenmark next? In like 70 years time? On the base IOC rules were inappriopriate "at the time". Or will a new scientific research in 2145 claim some of these dopers didn't actually profit from doping and people living in early XXI century didn't have enough knowledge to come to a fair conclusion? You NEVER tamper with history or else something bad always comes from it. Always. Like that Nikolai Yezhov photo with Stalin. Now you see him and now you don't.

Wojciech Nowicki 79,22 and qualifies for the hammer final with one throw.

medals chances: men's hammer (duh!), women's 4x400 relay, mixed 4x400 relay and maybe Malwina Kopron in the women's hammer given some of the absences in that event. So anything between 3-5 medals overall.

Yeah, re-writing history is never good. Never.

France hangs on to win 2:1. Belgium defended much better than Italy and only need to draw vs Azzuri in the last game to progress (I don't believe Iceland can even get a draw vs France).

France get a handball penalty but Renard is saved and then has an EPIC open goal miss

France scored in 6th minute and has like 80% possession but Belgium scores an equaliser!

Match ends in 1:1 draw. Just not enough offensive quality from Italy, they lack a new star even though Bonansea hit the post and looked sharp enough to try and carry the team in the second half. Just not enough to beat Iceland so Belgium might fancy advancing from this group if they don't lose by 5 goals to France in the evening game and avoid losing to Italy in the final match.

Iceland almost scores a second but Italy equalizes a minute later. 1:1.