[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Olympian1010 8,074]

  On 4/8/2020 at 8:39 PM, konig said:

Yes, looks what happen in Wall Street after Bernie Sanders quit, you dont live what the socialism did to a country, i insist, you have many users from countrys whichs sufers it if you dont believe me.......

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Trump’s actions drove the stock market down. California’s great response to Covid (with our thankfully left leaders) is driving hope up, as well as, the economy. I do want to live in a socialist country. No, not a communist country, nor a country ruled by a single person/party. I want to live in a country that’s truly for the people, that embraces diversity, and maintains peaceful existence. I realize that faux socialism has been a plague on the world for the last century, but democratic socialism is the correct way to fix that problem. I also don’t hate conservatism. I think it is required in many situations, however I think modern conservatism has lost it’s way. I chose to vote for hope and change, instead of fear and hate.

[Olympian1010 8,074]

  On 4/8/2020 at 8:55 PM, Agger said:

 

Hard to say 7 months before the elections. Biden is winning in the polls, both nationally and in the main battleground states, but this far from an election, those really don't mean that much. The corona situation could end up meaning a lot, but it's unsure. Meanwhile Biden will surely think about what he can give the Sanders (and to some extent Warren) supporters to get their votes as well as who he'll go for as VP.

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He has to chose a black woman to be his VP. He needs to chose someone like Abrams, who the party can rally around. Rumor has it that Warren is his first choice. As much as that makes me happy, I don’t think it will help him consolidate the black vote. The Democratic is grown too large. Our viewpoints are too diverse to beat the United front of hate and lies we see from the GOP.

[konig 1,510]

  On 4/8/2020 at 8:57 PM, Olympian1010 said:

Trump’s actions drove the stock market down. California’s great response to Covid (with our thankfully left leaders) is driving hope up, as well as, the economy. I do want to live in a socialist country. No, not a communist country, nor a country ruled by a single person/party. I want to live in a country that’s truly for the people, that embraces diversity, and maintains peaceful existence. I realize that faux socialism has been a plague on the world for the last century, but democratic socialism is the correct way to fix that problem. I also don’t hate conservatism. I think it is required in many situations, however I think modern conservatism has lost it’s way. I chose to vote for hope and change, instead of fear and hate.

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Ok, is your life, im libertarian (not conservative) but i prefer a conservative goverment than a "left" goverment, Trump, at least for what i see from him, is a good big surprise (i really dont expect nothing from him).

[Olympian1010 8,074]

  On 4/8/2020 at 9:00 PM, konig said:

Ok, is your life, im libertarian (not conservative) but i prefer a conservative goverment than a "left" goverment, Trump, at least for what i see from him, is a good big surprise (i really dont expect nothing from him).

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Same to you. I think the Democratic governors are to thank for saving the US from Covid. I don’t know how Trump’s response surprised you? There’s no response really, so I guess that is surprising in a way. 
 

I’m friends with quite a few libertarians by the way. They can be a little crazy for me at times, but then who isn’t right? 

[konig 1,510]

  On 4/8/2020 at 9:05 PM, Olympian1010 said:

Same to you. I think the Democratic governors are to thank for saving the US from Covid. I don’t know how Trump’s response surprised you? There’s no response really, so I guess that is surprising in a way. 
 

I’m friends with quite a few libertarians by the way. They can be a little crazy for me at times, but then who isn’t right? 

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Im talking about Trump "in general" in his goverment, not about what he did with the Covid......not too much.

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  On 4/8/2020 at 9:09 PM, konig said:

Im talking about Trump "in general" in his goverment, not about what he did with the Covid......not too much.

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Yeah the CDC has tried their best. I’m very thankful for them. Of course Trump shrunk their budget by quite a bit over the last two years...

I don’t think Trump can be credited for the likes of the good health experts we see around him, but I do agree that our health experts are doing their best possible work.

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  On 4/8/2020 at 9:00 PM, Olympian1010 said:

He has to chose a black woman to be his VP. He needs to chose someone like Abrams, who the party can rally around. Rumor has it that Warren is his first choice. As much as that makes me happy, I don’t think it will help him consolidate the black vote. The Democratic is grown too large. Our viewpoints are too diverse to beat the United front of hate and lies we see from the GOP.

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The obvious pick would be Harris who is also the one most pundits seem to mention as the top candidate. She creates some balance on both demography, ideology (she's no Warren or Sanders, but some more left-leaning than Biden) and she wouldn't cost anything in the race for a senate majority (like Warren (temporarily) or Baldwin could).

Warren could help a little in balancing internally, but I doubt she would win a lot of votes for the ticket that aren't winnable otherwise.

Abrams could also be interesting. Left-leaning, coloured and a notable voice. 

He could also go latino with Cortez Masto or maybe go all-in on a close states with Gretchen Whitmer or Tammy Baldwin though they are white and especially Baldwin could cost a senate seat.

And that's without mentioning Klobuchar, Duckworth or Grisham who I wouldn't count out of the game.

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  On 4/8/2020 at 8:12 PM, Olympian1010 said:

The Presidential Candidate of the US Green Party tweeted this out today.

I’ll probably vote Green to try and help get them federal benefits to strengthen their position, and hopefully make them a viable third party choice one day.

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You Bernie Bros will just never get it will you. Enjoy four more years of Trump. 

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  On 4/9/2020 at 1:18 AM, ofan said:

 

You Bernie Bros will just never get it will you. Enjoy four more years of Trump. 

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I’m not a “Bernie Bro.” I didn’t go around the internet shit talking people. I wasn’t actually the biggest fan of Bernie, but his politics, were my politics. I would support a Warren candidacy in a heartbeat too. I’ve come to realize that the Democratic Party no longer represents my politics or morals. While I realize my move may help elect Trump again, it may help me achieve my goals in the long run. Should I not vote/register for the party that truly matches my politics (which is actually probably the Peace and Freedom Party, but they’re a little crazy even for me)?

[ofan 238]

  On 4/9/2020 at 1:24 AM, Olympian1010 said:

I’m not a “Bernie Bro.” I didn’t go around the internet shit talking people. I wasn’t actually the biggest fan of Bernie, but his politics, were my politics. I would support a Warren candidacy in a heartbeat too. I’ve come to realize that the Democratic Party no longer represents my politics or morals. While I realize my move may help elect Trump again, it may help me achieve my goals in the long run. Should I not vote/register for the party that truly matches my politics (which is actually probably the Peace and Freedom Party, but they’re a little crazy even for me)?

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I would just ask you to consider how exactly 4 more years of Trump and unchecked conservative government moves you any closer to your goals?