Fencing 2018 Discussion Thread

[phelps 8,386]

Women's Team Foil (Algiers, ALG)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Russia

Silver: France

Bronze: United States

 

Semifinals:

Russia b. USA 45-44

France b. Italy 45-38

 

Bronze Medal Match:

USA b. Italy 45-44

 

Gold Medal Match:

Russia b. France 42-32

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/563/results/rank

Edited February 11, 2018 by phelps

[phelps 8,386]

Men's Team Sabre (Padua, ITA)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: South Korea

Silver: Italy

Bronze: Hungary

 

Semifinals:

Italy b. Hungary 45-40

South Korea b. USA 45-33

 

Bronze Medal Match:

Hungary b. USA 45-34

 

Gold Medal Match:

South Korea b. Italy 45-33

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/758/results/rank

Edited February 4, 2018 by phelps

[phelps 8,386]

I just can't believe it!!!

For the first time in more than 10 years (actually it's a lot more...but I can't remember the last time it happened), Italy is not on the podium of a women's team foil event in either World Cup, World Championships and/or Olympic Games!!!!!

This is the end of one of the longest streaks of success in the entire sports history...

This is the end of a legend, the real "back Sunday" of the Italian sport...

 

p.s. and the worst part of it, it's the fact that this news is not even going to be mentioned by any Italian media (apart from a couple of heavily specialized websites)...

Edited February 4, 2018 by phelps

[phelps 8,386]

4 hours ago, phelps said:

I just can't believe it!!!

For the first time in more than 10 years (actually it's a lot more...but I can't remember the last time it happened), Italy is not on the podium of a women's team foil event in either World Cup, World Championships and/or Olympic Games!!!!!

This is the end of one of the longest streaks of success in the entire sports history...

This is the end of a legend, the real "back Sunday" of the Italian sport...

 

p.s. and the worst part of it, it's the fact that this news is not even going to be mentioned by any Italian media (apart from a couple of heavily specialized websites)...

 

some details...

 

as expected, the last women's team foil competition with the Italian girls not jumping on the podium happened 10 seasons ago, 9 years and 8.5 months to be precise...

 

the fatal date was May 18th, 2008 in Jeju Island (KOR), when Italy ended up the local World Cup event only in 4th place...

 

in the same season, there was also the last major championship with Italy outside the medal ranks: it happened in Kiev (July 4th, 2008) at the European Championships, when our Dream Team was just 5th...

 

moreover, the last time Italy lost a team assault against someone different from Russia happened in the 2014/2015 season, when the USA beat Italy in the semifinal of the Gdansk World Cup stage (in the same season, earlier also the French girls won against Italy once, in the semifinal of the Cancun World Cup stage)...

from that day (January 18th, 2015) on, only the Russian girls have been able to defeat our wonderful girls (6 times in total in 3 years)...

 

in this span (from the beginning of the 2007/2008 season), Italy has won 36 World Cup events (out of possible 53, today's event included), 6 Gold and 2 Silver medals at the World Champs (in 8 participations), 8 Gold and 1 Silver medal at the European Champs (in 10 participations, the only without medals being the infamous Kiev 2008 tournament) and 1 Gold and 1 Bronze medal at the Olympic Games (in 2 participations)...

3 times (2008/2009, 2013/2014 and 2016/2017) Italy also had the socalled "perfect season", meaning that they won each and every tournament they entered (all WC stages, European Champs and World Champs)...

 

from tonight, that's just history...

 

p.s. this is the full recap of the Italian placings in the Women's Team Foil major events of the Fencing seasons from 2007/2008 through today...

 

2007/2008
World Cup
-Gdansk 5
St.Petersburg 3
Tokyo 1
-Jeju 4
La Havana 2
Olympic Games 3
-European Champs 5

 

2008/2009
World Cup
Gdansk 1
Marseille 1
Seoul 1
St.Petersburg 1
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2009/2010
World Cup
Gdansk 1
Turin 1
Marseille 1
Seoul 1
St.Petersburg 2
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2010/2011
World Cup
Tauberbischofsheim 2
Turin 1
Budapest 1
Shanghai 1
St.Petersburg 1
World Champs 2
European Champs 1

 

2011/2012
World Cup
Tauberbischofsheim 1
Turin 1
Budapest 1
Shanghai 2
St.Petersburg 1
Olympic Games 1
European Champs 1

 

2012/2013
World Cup
Budapest 1
St.Petersburg 1
Tauberbischofsheim 1
Turin 1
Shanghai 3
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2013/2014
World Cup
Budapest 1
St.Petersburg 1
Tauberbischofsheim 1
Turin 1
Shanghai 1
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2014/2015
World Cup
Cancun 3
St.Maur 2
Gdansk 3
Algiers 1
Tauberbischofsheim 2
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2015/2016
World Cup
Cancun 1
St.Maur 1
Gdansk 1
Algiers 2
Tauberbischofsheim 2
World Champs 2
European Champs 2

 

2016/2017
World Cup
Cancun 1
St.Maur 1
Algiers 1
Gdansk 1
Tauberbischofsheim 1
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2017/2018
World Cup
Cancun 2
St.Maur 1
Katowice 2
-Algiers 4

Edited February 4, 2018 by phelps

[phelps 8,386]

the Olympic Games are underway, but that's not the only sport event running in this weekend...

 

Fencing doesn't stop...

 

Men's Individual Foil (Bonn, GER)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Alexey Cheremisinov (RUS)

Silver: Alexander Massialas (USA)

Bronze: Guillaume Bianchi (ITA) & Jeremy Cadot (FRA)

 

Semifinals:

Cheremisinov b. Bianchi 15-8

Massialas b. Cadot 15-11

 

Gold Medal Match:

Cheremisinov b. Massialas 15-8

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/138/results/rank

[phelps 8,386]

Women's Individual Epee (Barcelona, ESP)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Zhu Mingye (CHN)

Silver: Tatyana Andryushina (RUS)

Bronze: Kang Young Mi (KOR) & Olena Kryvytska (UKR)

 

Semifinals:

Zhu b. Kang 15-11

Andryushina b. Kryvytska 15-5

 

Gold Medal Match:

Zhu b. Andryushina 15-7

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/92/results/rank

[AlFHg 330]

Italy still going bad in women epee. That is sad.

[phelps 8,386]

12 minutes ago, AlFHg said:

Italy still going bad in women epee. That is sad.

 

I don't expect anything different at the moment...

I hope sooner or later Marzani, De Marchi and Clerici would become regular medallists, but they still have to earn their experience, which is so important in Epee (more than in the other weapons)...

right now, we can only rely on Fiamingo's special feeling for the big events...

Edited February 10, 2018 by phelps

[phelps 8,386]

Women's Team Epee (Barcelona, ESP)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Russia

Silver: Italy

Bronze: United States

 

Semifinals:

Russia b. USA 32*-32 (Priority)

Italy b. Romania 39-29

 

Bronze Medal Match:

USA b. Romania 28-20

 

Gold Medal Match:

Russia b. Italy 35-25

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/750/results/rank

[phelps 8,386]

Men's Team Foil (Bonn, GER)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: United States

Silver: South Korea

Bronze: France

 

Semifinals:

USA b. Russia 45-37

South Korea b. France 45-36

 

Bronze Medal Match:

France b. Russia 44-43

 

Gold Medal Match:

USA b. South Korea 45-32

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/761/results/rank

Edited February 11, 2018 by phelps