Formula 1 FIA World Championship 2021

[Monzanator 5,136]

It is BS penalty. It was a 50/50 racing incident IMO. However Sochi is one track where this penalty isn't that severe due to the extremely long run down to Turn 2 braking zone (T1 is a kink).

[AmericanHero40 252]

2 hours ago, Monzanator said:

It is BS penalty. It was a 50/50 racing incident IMO. However Sochi is one track where this penalty isn't that severe due to the extremely long run down to Turn 2 braking zone (T1 is a kink).

Will be interesting to see if they will decide to do a bottas style engine change

[Monzanator 5,136]

2 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

Will be interesting to see if they will decide to do a bottas style engine change

I don't think so. Too much to lose in the title race. Bottas was a non-factor for months so it didn't mean much.

[AmericanHero40 252]

5 hours ago, Monzanator said:

I don't think so. Too much to lose in the title race. Bottas was a non-factor for months so it didn't mean much.

You don't think they will before the end of the season?

 

Sky made it seem like it's coming

 

[Monzanator 5,136]

10 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

You don't think they will before the end of the season?

 

Sky made it seem like it's coming

 

 

They probably will but ahead of a track that actually enables overtaking a little more than others. Mexico is usually a strong track for Red Bull so they wouldn't risk losing a victory but maybe they do it ahead of Interlagos (or Austin if the mileage is bigger than we think).

[AmericanHero40 252]

5 hours ago, Monzanator said:

 

They probably will but ahead of a track that actually enables overtaking a little more than others. Mexico is usually a strong track for Red Bull so they wouldn't risk losing a victory but maybe they do it ahead of Interlagos (or Austin if the mileage is bigger than we think).

Since when is changing an engine is a penalty? is it on the first engine a penalty? i remember grid penalties for transmission changes, but not engine

 

[Monzanator 5,136]

4 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

Since when is changing an engine is a penalty? is it on the first engine a penalty? i remember grid penalties for transmission changes, but not engine

 

Every driver has three engines per season. Using four or more engines equals a penalty (you can go back to engine previously used as long as it's max. three).

 

Here's the full chart at the Italian GP. Everyone is on their 3rd engine except for Bottas & Perez who are on #4 (they incurred penalties already). Bottas lost one in the Imola collision with Russell and Perez lost one in the Hungary Turn 1 pile-up. Verstappen lost one in the British GP shunt and is on his third since Hungary. Mind you, Monza is usually the target for an engine change since it's a power circuit. Most drivers made a switch to their third engine only ahead of this Grand Prix.

 

https://maxf1.net/en/2021-f1-power-unit-elements-usage/

[AmericanHero40 252]

5 hours ago, Monzanator said:

Every driver has three engines per season. Using four or more engines equals a penalty (you can go back to engine previously used as long as it's max. three).

 

Here's the full chart at the Italian GP. Everyone is on their 3rd engine except for Bottas & Perez who are on #4 (they incurred penalties already). Bottas lost one in the Imola collision with Russell and Perez lost one in the Hungary Turn 1 pile-up. Verstappen lost one in the British GP shunt and is on his third since Hungary. Mind you, Monza is usually the target for an engine change since it's a power circuit. Most drivers made a switch to their third engine only ahead of this Grand Prix.

 

https://maxf1.net/en/2021-f1-power-unit-elements-usage/

When did hamilton change to his 3rd? No way Verstappen can finish the season with his engine, he will have to change it

[Monzanator 5,136]

13 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

When did hamilton change to his 3rd? No way Verstappen can finish the season with his engine, he will have to change it

 

Ahead of the Italian Grand Prix. Like I've mentioned before, this is a strategic place on the calendar for the last 'free' engine change for literally every team.

 

Yep, Verstappen effectively has three more Grand Prix on the mileage (Hungary, Holland & Belgium which was a complete wash but not practice). Everyone is on the last allocated engine from Monza onwards (Perez took his 4th in Zandvoort already plus Bottas in Monza). Any further changes will result in grid penalties.

[AmericanHero40 252]

Very surprising that verstappen finished 2nd after starting last.  Off course lucky with that rain in the end that McLaren screwed up on.