dcro 10,210 Posted March 19, 2016 #91 Share Posted March 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said: I disagree, why should an athlete be not only the best at their event for their nation, but be better than someone in a different event? It opens up corruption (how can you measure whether someone is better in the light flyweight vs. the bantamweight?), weakens the overall field and could shrink the interest of the sport in some nations. There should be some objective ways for deciding that. If someone wins qualification tournament that should be more valuable then qualifying through box-off. Morocco qualifies 9 boxers this time. Out of 8 boxers that they had in London, 7 (!) of them went out in round one. I really don't see the point in that. It's going to be something similar in Rio probably. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,818 Posted March 19, 2016 #92 Share Posted March 19, 2016 and now in 69kg KEDACHE is qualified to Rio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,418 Posted March 19, 2016 #93 Share Posted March 19, 2016 And why you care? it's not like boxing has few quota compared to many other sports. 22-28 per category and there are many chances to qualify, global and continental. If a country cannot even qualify 1 with these favorable conditions, then there's nothing to do. They should wait for a tripartite then. konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,538 Posted March 19, 2016 #94 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dcro said: There should be some objective ways for deciding that. If someone wins qualification tournament that should be more valuable then qualifying through box-off. Morocco qualifies 9 boxers this time. Out of 8 boxers that they had in London, 7 (!) of them went out in round one. I really don't see the point in that. It's going to be something similar in Rio probably. If you allow all of them to participate in the qualification tournament then you won't get an idea on who actually deserves to go. Weren't we complaining about South Africa competing here despite knowing full well they wouldn't compete in the Olympics? At least in taekwondo only two athletes compete in the qualification tournament. Edited March 19, 2016 by JoshMartini007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted March 19, 2016 #95 Share Posted March 19, 2016 19 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said: If you allow all of them to participate in the qualification tournament then you won't get an idea on who actually deserves to go. Weren't we complaining about South Africa competing here despite knowing full well they wouldn't compete in the Olympics? At least in taekwondo only two athletes compete in the qualification tournament. Well, there can be equally as much corruption regardless of wheter the athletes are selected before or after qualification tournament. As for South Africa, I wouldn't be surprised if some appeals about their selection systems emerge. Obviously there is no point in appealing about selection criteria if you haven't qualified in first place. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,538 Posted March 19, 2016 #96 Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, dcro said: Well, there can be equally as much corruption regardless of wheter the athletes are selected before or after qualification tournament. As for South Africa, I wouldn't be surprised if some appeals about their selection systems emerge. Obviously there is no point in appealing about selection criteria if you haven't qualified in first place. Correct. So there isn't really a fair way to do this. Also Morocco is the only nation majorly benefiting from the current format as all of the other African/American nations have not qualified more than 5 men/2 women (~50%, like in taekwondo). Seems like a lot of work just to lower quotas for one nation (maybe there might be a couple more for Europe/Asia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vojthas 949 Posted March 19, 2016 #97 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Do you know where can I find the today's results of finals and box-offs from African OQT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted March 19, 2016 #98 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Virgin Islands get quota by knock out! Well done. Other quotas go to Argentina. Edited March 19, 2016 by dcro #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,418 Posted March 19, 2016 #99 Share Posted March 19, 2016 American qualifier is over, 5 quota for us. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,504 Posted March 19, 2016 #100 Share Posted March 19, 2016 24 minutes ago, LDOG said: American qualifier is over, 5 quota for us. Good job. I came here to say the same, general good performance and its possible to have another in the rest tournaments (Blanc is clearly who has best chances for me), its a shame what happen with Espindola.......the next week we will increase the argentinian delegation with rowing, is in 181, 19 more and it will be the biggest argentinian delegation of the history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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