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Even the practice sessions and qualifications were much more interesting than this race. At least friday and saturday we had some red flags due to grass taking fire Red Bull still looking for the 2nd driverBut I guess Tsunoda will improve in the next races -
By Topicmaster1010 · Posted
Milano-Cortina 2026 Quota Simulation: 2024-25 Data Edition Hello fellow Totallympians and welcome to another quota simulation. This time, the focus has shifted over to the winter Olympics. There's still a ski mountaineering world cup and some a few world championships to go but I thought I would post this while everyone is still in winter sports mode. I'll post minor updates if any data changes over the next month but I don't there'll be many changes. There's a few things to note before we begin. Total # of NOC's Overall, we have a total of 88 NOC's that are qualified/projected to qualify for the Olympics. This would represent a decrease of 4 NOC's from the 91 nations in Beijing although Russia and Belarus were competing separately then. On the other hand, with Russia/Belarus being limited to how many sports and how many athletes they can qualify, many of the major winter sports nations are projected to have their largest team ever. Russian/Belarusian athletes Speaking of Russia and Belarus, they are included in this simulation and just like in 2024, it was very annoying to factor them in considering they didn't compete in competitions in the last year at all (besides ski mountaineering). I've only included these athletes in the skating sports and ski mountaineering. The ISU has already announced a pathway for Russian/Belarusian athletes to qualify and neutral athletes are already competing in the ski mountaineering competitions. Russia was easy to simulate since it was safe to assume that one athlete would qualify in each event. Belarus was a bit harder and involved me looking at individual times/scores for their athletes this year. At the end of the day, I decided to include Belarusians in women's singles and pairs for figure skating and the men's 500m & 1000m along with all of the women's events in speed skating. All of the women's speed skating events may be a bit too generous but that was how it was in 2022. Total # of athletes In total, 2873 athletes are projected to qualify from this simulation. This is despite the athlete cap being at 2900. There are a few reasons for this discrepancy. Bobsleigh: Only 162 of the maximum 170 quotas were used. Curling: Only 109 of the maximum 120 quotas were used. This is due to certain players being simulated to play in both the mixed doubles and 4 person events resulting in them taking up two quotas. Figure Skating: The additional 5 quotas allowed for the team event were used here. After simulating the final qualifying event, only Canada, France, Georgia, Italy and the USA had full teams so I gave an additional quotas to Great Britain in men's singles, Japan in ice dance, and South Korea in Pairs. Freestyle Skiing: Only 277 quotas were used here compared to the maximum 284 quotas. The women's halfpipe looks like it will have trouble filling up their 25 quotas as only 23 quotas were used and I believe 5 athletes simulated currently do not have the required amount of FIS points to be eligible. Men's aerials and women's ski cross originally had enough athletes to fill up the allotted quota. However, Canada and the USA were over the maximum limit so after simulating rejected quotas, those events didn't have enough athletes to fill the allotted quotas and women's aerials just made it. Henry Sildaru (EST) is also projected to qualify in both men's halfpipe and slopestyle/big air. Luge: Only 105 of the maximum 106 quotas were used here because Wolfgang Kindl (AUT) is projected to qualify in both men's singles and men's doubles Snowboarding: Only 236 of the maximum 238 quotas were used here. Jonas Hasler (SUI) is projected to qualify in both halfpipe and slopestyle/big air and Cody Winters (USA) is projected to qualify in both PGS and snowboard cross. In addition, there are also 3 athletes expected to compete in multiple sports: Phillip Bellingham (AUS) in cross-country skiing and ski mountaineering, Ester Ledecka (CZE) in alpine skiing, and snowboarding, and Arianna Fontana (ITA) in short track and speed skating. Please let me know if there's any other possible athletes that could also be in this list. Internal qualification procedures Internal qualification procedures for countries like the Netherlands and New Zealand WERE NOT taken into account this time for the sole reason because it's fun seeing the Netherlands have an athlete in Nordic Combined Differences from the FIS quota simulations If you have a look at the FIS quota simulations on their webpages for alpine skiing, cross-country skiing, freestyle skiing, and snowboarding, you'll notice there are some differences. Alpine Skiing: NOC's with a man or woman that hasn't qualified yet were taken into account. If the athlete hasn't had the required amount of races to qualify but is averaging the necessary amount of points to qualify, I simulated them as qualified (e.g. Morocco). Cross-Country Skiing: FIS only simulated 138 quotas in each gender. I reallocated the remaining 10 quotas per gender based on the Olympic nations' ranking. There is a clause that if an unqualified NOC scores 300 points or less in a world cup race next season, they can qualify. However, that is very unlikely to happen (unless Russia and Belarus are invited back) since there are already athletes from qualified NOC's competing in World Cup races that get lapped. Freestyle Skiing: I took into account Canada and the USA rejecting quotas since they were both initially over the 32 athlete quota limit. I had Canada rejecting 2 quotas in women's aerials, 1 each per gender in moguls, 1 in men's halfpipe, and 2 in men's slopestyle/big air. I had the USA rejecting 1 quota in men's aerials, 1 in men's ski cross, and 2 in women's ski cross. Snowboard: Two athletes in women's snowboard cross were not eligible to qualify and were replaced with athletes on the reserve list that were eligible. Speaking of athlete eligibility, there were some athletes that were simulated by FIS that didn't meet eligiblity requirements. I decided that if there was an eligible athlete on the reserve list, then the ineligible athlete would be replaced but if there wasn't an eligible athlete on the reserve list, I would keep the ineligible athlete in the quota list (e.g. Vanuatu in freeski halfpipe). Anyways, that's enough talking. Let's begin! The numbers in brackets represent the change from the NOC's athlete total at Beijing 2022. Please comment if you have any questions, thoughts or observations. Africa (7 nations) Eritrea: 1 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 1) Kenya: 2 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 2) Madagascar: 2 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2) Morocco: 1 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 1) Nigeria: 1 (0) (Cross-Country Skiing - 1) South Africa: 3 (+3) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 1) Togo: 1 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1) Americas (12 nations) Argentina: 8 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Cross-Country Skiing - 4, Luge - 1) Bolivia: 1 (-1) (Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Brazil: 15 (+5) (Alpine Skiing - 4, Biathlon - 1, Bobsleigh - 4, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Short Track - 1, Skeleton - 1, Snowboarding - 1) Canada: 206 (-9) (Alpine Skiing - 11, Biathlon - 8, Bobsleigh - 14, Cross-Country Skiing - 13, Curling - 11, Figure Skating - 12, Freestyle Skiing - 32, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 6, Short Track - 10, Skeleton - 2, Ski Jumping - 3, Ski Mountaineering - 2, Snowboarding - 21, Speed Skating - 13) Chile: 4 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 1) Colombia: 2 (-1) (Cross-Country Skiing - 1, Skeleton - 1) Haiti: 2 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Jamaica: 2 (-5) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Bobsleigh - 1) Mexico: 3 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Puerto Rico: 1 (-1) (Skeleton - 1) Trinidad and Tobago: 2 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2) United States of America: 223 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 19, Biathlon - 8, Bobsleigh - 14, Cross-Country Skiing - 16, Curling - 6, Figure Skating - 18, Freestyle Skiing - 32, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 11, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 4, Skeleton - 4, Ski Jumping - 7, Snowboarding - 23, Speed Skating - 11) Asia (18 nations) China: 115 (-67) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 3, Bobsleigh - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 6, Curling - 10, Figure Skating - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 24, Luge - 6, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 10, Skeleton - 5, Ski Jumping - 6, Ski Mountaineering - 2, Snowboarding - 16, Speed Skating - 14) Hong Kong: 2 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Short Track - 1) India: 2 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Iran: 3 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Japan: 124 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Biathlon - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 7, Curling - 7, Figure Skating - 10, Freestyle Skiing - 20, Ice Hockey - 23, Luge - 1, Nordic Combined - 3, Short Track - 9, Ski Jumping - 7, Snowboarding - 20, Speed Skating - 13) Kazakhstan: 43 (+9) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 3, Cross-Country Skiing - 8, Figure Skating - 2, Freestyle Skiing - 12, Nordic Combined - 1, Short Track - 8, Ski Jumping - 3, Speed Skating - 4) Kyrgyzstan: 2 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Lebanon: 1 (-2) (Alpine Skiing - 1) Malaysia: 1 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 1) Mongolia: 2 (0) (Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Philippines: 2 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 2) Saudi Arabia: 2 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Singapore: 1 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1) South Korea: 62 (-2) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 2, Bobsleigh - 4, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Curling - 5, Figure Skating - 8, Freestyle Skiing - 5, Luge - 1, Short Track - 10, Skeleton - 1, Snowboarding - 11, Speed Skating - 10) Taiwan: 6 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 2, Skeleton - 1, Speed Skating - 1) Thailand: 4 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Bobsleigh - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) United Arab Emirates: 1 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 1) Uzbekistan: 3 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Figure Skating - 2) Europe (47 nations) Albania: 3 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 3) Andorra: 6 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 4, Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Armenia: 3 (-3) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Austria: 109 (+3) (Alpine Skiing - 22, Biathlon - 9, Bobsleigh - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 8, Figure Skating - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 13, Luge - 11, Nordic Combined - 3, Short Track - 1, Skeleton - 4, Ski Jumping - 8, Ski Mountaineering - 2, Snowboarding - 17, Speed Skating - 2) Azerbaijan: 1 (-1) (Figure Skating - 1) Belgium: 32 (+13) (Alpine Skiing - 4, Biathlon - 8, Bobsleigh - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 1, Figure Skating - 2, Short Track - 5, Skeleton - 1, Ski Mountaineering - 1, Snowboarding - 1, Speed Skating - 7) Bosnia and Herzegovina: 5 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Cross-Country Skiing - 1, Luge - 1) Bulgaria: 19 (+3) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Biathlon - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Figure Skating - 1, Ski Jumping - 1, Snowboarding - 3) Croatia: 14 (+3) (Alpine Skiing - 6, Biathlon - 3, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Short Track - 2) Cyprus: 2 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 2) Czech Republic: 123 (+10) (Alpine Skiing - 6, Biathlon - 10, Bobsleigh - 10, Cross-Country Skiing - 13, Curling - 5, Figure Skating - 4, Freestyle Skiing - 5, Ice Hockey - 48, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 2, Skeleton - 1, Ski Jumping - 5, Snowboarding - 9, Speed Skating - 4) Denmark: 40 (-22) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 2, Bobsleigh - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1, Curling - 5, Ice Hockey - 25, Skeleton - 2, Speed Skating - 2) Estonia: 31 (+5) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Biathlon - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 8, Curling - 2, Figure Skating - 2, Freestyle Skiing - 2, Nordic Combined - 2, Skeleton - 1, Ski Jumping - 2, Speed Skating - 1) Finland: 102 (+7) (Alpine Skiing - 5, Biathlon - 10, Cross-Country Skiing - 16, Figure Skating - 5, Freestyle Skiing - 8, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 1, Nordic Combined - 2, Ski Jumping - 5, Snowboarding - 2) France: 152 (+66) (Alpine Skiing - 17, Biathlon - 12, Bobsleigh - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 15, Figure Skating - 10, Freestyle Skiing - 18, Ice Hockey - 48, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 3, Skeleton - 1, Ski Jumping - 6, Ski Mountaineering - 4, Snowboarding - 10, Speed Skating - 4) Georgia: 8 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Figure Skating - 6) Germany: 188 (+39) (Alpine Skiing - 11, Biathlon - 11, Bobsleigh - 18, Cross-Country Skiing - 14, Curling - 5, Figure Skating - 6, Freestyle Skiing - 11, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 12, Nordic Combined - 3, Short Track - 1, Skeleton - 6, Ski Jumping - 7, Ski Mountaineering - 3, Snowboarding - 19, Speed Skating - 13) Great Britain: 55 (+5) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Bobsleigh - 10, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Curling - 10, Figure Skating - 8, Freestyle Skiing - 7, Short Track - 3, Skeleton - 5, Snowboarding - 5) Greece: 5 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 3) Hungary: 16 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 4, Figure Skating - 2, Short Track - 5, Snowboarding - 2, Speed Skating - 1) Iceland: 4 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Ireland: 6 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 2, Luge - 1, Short Track - 1) Israel: 5 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Figure Skating - 2, Skeleton - 1) Italy: 193 (+75) (Alpine Skiing - 21, Biathlon - 10, Bobsleigh - 10, Cross-Country Skiing - 13, Curling - 10, Figure Skating - 11, Freestyle Skiing - 10, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 10, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 10, Skeleton - 3, Ski Jumping - 7, Ski Mountaineering - 3, Snowboarding - 16, Speed Skating - 10) Kosovo: 2 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2) Latvia: 70 (+13) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 8, Bobsleigh - 9, Cross-Country Skiing - 7, Figure Skating - 3, Ice Hockey - 25, Luge - 11, Short Track - 2, Skeleton - 3) Liechtenstein: 4 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Lithuania: 17 (+4) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 4, Figure Skating - 3) Luxembourg: 2 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2) Malta: 1 (0) (Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Moldova: 4 (-1) (Biathlon - 4) Monaco: 5 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Bobsleigh - 4) Montenegro: 2 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Netherlands: 43 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Bobsleigh - 4, Figure Skating - 2, Freestyle Skiing - 1, Nordic Combined - 1, Short Track - 10, Skeleton - 1, Snowboarding - 4, Speed Skating - 18) North Macedonia*: 3 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Norway: 91 (+7) (Alpine Skiing - 18, Biathlon - 11, Cross-Country Skiing - 16, Curling - 11, Freestyle Skiing - 5, Nordic Combined - 3, Ski Jumping - 8, Ski Mountaineering - 3, Snowboarding - 4, Speed Skating - 12) Poland: 59 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Biathlon - 8, Bobsleigh - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 7, Figure Skating - 4, Luge - 6, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 7, Ski Jumping - 5, Ski Mountaineering - 2, Snowboarding - 4, Speed Skating - 9) Portugal: 3 (+7) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 1) Romania: 31 (+10) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 6, Bobsleigh - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Figure Skating - 1, Luge - 8, Ski Jumping - 2, Snowboarding - 1) Serbia: 4 (+2) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 2) Slovakia: 49 (-1) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 6, Bobsleigh - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Figure Skating - 1, Ice Hockey - 25, Luge - 6, Ski Jumping - 1, Ski Mountaineering - 3) Slovenia: 41 (-3) (Alpine Skiing - 10, Biathlon - 9, Cross-Country Skiing - 8, Nordic Combined - 2, Ski Jumping - 7, Snowboarding - 5) Spain: 17 (+3) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Bobsleigh - 1, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Figure Skating - 3, Ski Mountaineering - 4, Snowboarding - 4) Sweden: 117 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 12, Biathlon - 12, Cross-Country Skiing - 16, Curling - 10, Figure Skating - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 15, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 2, Snowboarding - 1) Switzerland: 179 (+12) (Alpine Skiing - 22, Biathlon - 10, Bobsleigh - 16, Cross-Country Skiing - 13, Curling - 10, Figure Skating - 3, Freestyle Skiing - 22, Ice Hockey - 48, Luge - 1, Nordic Combined - 2, Skeleton - 3, Ski Jumping - 4, Ski Mountaineering - 4, Snowboarding - 18, Speed Skating - 3) Türkiye: 7 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 2, Short Track - 1, Ski Jumping - 2) Ukraine: 46 (+1) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 10, Cross-Country Skiing - 6, Figure Skating - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 8, Luge - 8, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 2, Skeleton - 1, Ski Jumping - 4, Snowboarding - 2) Oceania (3 nations) Australia: 53 (+9) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Biathlon - 1, Bobsleigh - 8, Cross-Country Skiing - 8, Curling - 2, Figure Skating - 2, Freestyle Skiing - 13, Luge - 1, Short Track - 2, Skeleton - 1, Ski Mountaineering - 2, Snowboarding - 12) New Zealand: 21 (+6) (Alpine Skiing - 4, Freestyle Skiing - 11, Snowboarding - 5, Speed Skating - 1) Vanuatu: 1 (+1) (Freestyle Skiing - 1) Other (1 nation) Individual Neutral Athletes: 23 (Figure Skating - 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Piastri in the green room: "Those were all the highlights? That was all?" -
Nothing. Which simply means one thing: don't make a 'set' of races if there aren't enough events for that. It's like having this for field events, coming up with the set of events called "vertical jumps without extra equipment" and since that only means the high jump, they just add the discus throw as well. Just have the 100/110/400m hurdles as an event, instead of having the flat versions of them in the same set (especially considering those distances are also already part of another set anyway).
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I wouldn’t count out Dunstone, I think they have a solid chance. -
I agree but… realistically what else could they substitute for it?
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By Biathlonfan · Posted
there will be no Stahl Or Ceh [who has pulled out] at ramona. -
Why on earth is the flat 100m part of the "short hurdles" thingy? Edit: and the flat 400m is in the "long hurdles" thing, come on
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Well, the good news is that Team Jacobs was able to pretty easily handle every team except Scotland. The bad news is that they came up against Scotland in the semis. Not bad, all around. It'll be interesting to see which Brad will represent Canada in Italy next winter. Or will someone come out of nowhere to take the spot? Edit: "Nowhere" is a bit much, there's like 5 teams that could conceivably win the Canadian championships. But it seems like it's down to these two. Both Olympic champions already.
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