Things You Would Change in Sports?

[heywoodu 16,004]

5 hours ago, LuizGuilherme said:

Its not to change sports but i would love to see big mountains and snow in Brazil to have olympic games to suport every 2 years.

 

Which you do, one of the few Olympians (kind of) on Totallympics is a Brazilian winter athlete, so....  

[De_Gambassi 1,267]

 Life ban for any doping offence as an athlete, coach, director or whatever. Your only way out is to give everyone up and reject your right to appeal 

 

Also, remove entirely the anti doping policy from federations and national interests hands.

[De_Gambassi 1,267]

Rebuild the Euroleague from scratch with the aim of two divisions of ~20 teams each (East and West), without national leagues participation, salary floors and caps all across the board and a heavy emphasis on financial fair play. Plus a traditional elimination cup on top of that. 

 

Generally speaking, most national leagues for team sports in Europe make zero sense. They were okish in an amateur aera, but not today. They are not competitive and are totally dominated by one or two teams and are for the most part a shit product. NA leagues are much better in this regard. We should look at cross-countries or continental leagues.

 

Edited June 1, 2024 by De_Gambassi

[Jinzha 702]

16 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

Rebuild the Euroleague from scratch with the aim of two divisions of ~20 teams each (East and West), without national leagues participation, salary floors and caps all across the board and a heavy emphasis on financial fair play. Plus a traditional elimination cup on top of that. 

 

Generally speaking, most national leagues for team sports in Europe make zero sense. They were okish in an amateur aera, but not today. They are not competitive and are totally dominated by one or two teams and are for the most part a shit product. NA leagues are much better in this regard. We should look at cross-countries or continental leagues.

 

I'm not sure if I agree with this. For viewership at the elite level (and for sponsors) the American model is maybe better, but I much prefer the grassroots model of the European sporting pyramid. It creates local engagement and a connection to grassroots talents. And with Champions Leagues and Euro cups in all team sports there is still the opportunity for the best teams to compete. If the CL becomes the normalised regular competition it also loses its prestige imo.

 

Local competitions are also much more sustainable than weekly flight between say Copenhagen and Barcelona for handball games or Milan and Istanbull for volleyball games.

[De_Gambassi 1,267]

13 minutes ago, Jinzha said:

I'm not sure if I agree with this. For viewership at the elite level (and for sponsors) the American model is maybe better, but I much prefer the grassroots model of the European sporting pyramid. It creates local engagement and a connection to grassroots talents. And with Champions Leagues and Euro cups in all team sports there is still the opportunity for the best teams to compete. If the CL becomes the normalised regular competition it also loses its prestige imo.

 

Local competitions are also much more sustainable than weekly flight between say Copenhagen and Barcelona for handball games or Milan and Istanbull for volleyball games.

 

You d'on't have a football pyramid in the Netherlands (or didn't, not sure where it stands today)

[heywoodu 16,004]

45 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 Life ban for any doping offence as an athlete, coach, director or whatever. Your only way out is to give everyone up and reject your right to appeal 

 

Also, remove entirely the anti doping policy from federations and national interests hands.

Definitely agree with the latter, not so sure about the former  Much as I'd like to see actual cheats be removed forever, there are doping offences where genuine mistakes are involved (say contamination, which should lead to a ban because it can increase performance, but I wouldn't be a fan of a lifetime ban for that).

 

No idea what would be the most fair way to deal with the whole thing though, glad I'm not a rulemaker  

[Grassmarket 4,033]

6 hours ago, LuizGuilherme said:

Its not to change sports but i would love to see big mountains and snow in Brazil to have olympic games to suport every 2 years.

 

Unfortunatly im not God 

Annex !  Simples. 

[heywoodu 16,004]

37 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

Rebuild the Euroleague from scratch with the aim of two divisions of ~20 teams each (East and West), without national leagues participation, salary floors and caps all across the board and a heavy emphasis on financial fair play. Plus a traditional elimination cup on top of that. 

 

Generally speaking, most national leagues for team sports in Europe make zero sense. They were okish in an amateur aera, but not today. They are not competitive and are totally dominated by one or two teams and are for the most part a shit product. NA leagues are much better in this regard. We should look at cross-countries or continental leagues.

 

Wouldn't this lead to every single match being a 'big match' and so every big match being nothing special anymore?  

 

Plus it'd probably destroy the sports in many countries, since at best 1 or 2 teams from most countries would even remotely stand a chance of having any kind of competition then. One might have like 10 different levels between which one can fight for promotion/relegation (we definitely should not have the closed market that is the North American system of sports), but good luck to a small team from, say, Ireland going to an away match against a small team from, say, Turkey, they aren't going to be able to keep paying that  

[De_Gambassi 1,267]

11 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Definitely agree with the latter, not so sure about the former  Much as I'd like to see actual cheats be removed forever, there are doping offences where genuine mistakes are involved (say contamination, which should lead to a ban because it can increase performance, but I wouldn't be a fan of a lifetime ban for that).

 

No idea what would be the most fair way to deal with the whole thing though, glad I'm not a rulemaker  

 

Well at the end of the day, mistake or not, the athlete did use a performance-enhancing drug. And really, this is about incentives, because at the moment, there are barely any for an athlete not to dope (unlikely chance to get caught, great chance to cheat the system anyway, and in worst case scenario, a relative lenient sanction)

[heywoodu 16,004]

19 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Well at the end of the day, mistake or not, the athlete did use a performance-enhancing drug. And really, this is about incentives, because at the moment, there are barely any for an athlete not to dope (unlikely chance to get caught, great chance to cheat the system anyway, and in worst case scenario, a relative lenient sanction)

Yeah, I definitely agree something needs to improve in the entire system, I'm just not sure lifetime bans for every kind of doping offences are the way to go. Would definitely want to see some action in terms of changing things though.