GB Athletics

[Epic Failure 355]

So round up of GBR athletes of note so far this weekend. These are *far* from the only GBR athletes competing - these were the ones that stood out to me, either as good times or athletes who might be in contention for Paris or Rome this summer:

 

LA

 

400m - Ohuruogu - 51.67

1500m - Fogg - 3:35.82

800m - Wightman - 1:44.10 (OQT), Botterill 1:45.91, Langford 1:46.18

1500m - Snowden - 4:00.89 (OQT)

 

(last night)

 

800m - Sharman-Newell - 1:45.5

3000m SC - Bird - 9.32.95

3000m SC - Seddon - 8:20.77 (PB)

5000m - Atkin - 12:54.66 (PB, OQT)

5000m - Nuttall - 14:57.91 (PB)

 

Wetzler

100m - Edoburen - 10.24 (+1.0)

100m - Henry - 11.44 (+1.4)

 

Chorzow

 

100m - NMB - 10.25 (+0.1)

100m - Lansiquot - 11.24 (-0.1)

200m - NMB - 20.54 (+0.8) Quainoo 20.84

200m - Hunt - 22.85 (0.0)

400m - La Nielsen - 51.47, Pipi 52.77

800m - Baker 2:00.16

1500m - Reekie - 4:02.57

400m H - Li Nielsen - 54.73 (=PB, OQT)

Shot - Lincoln - 20.75

 

Andujar

 

100m - Efoloko - 10.35 (+0.4), Morgan-Harrison 10.41

800m - G Bell - 1:59.93 (PB)

 

 

Gotzis Day 1

 

Pawlett - 3820pts - 13.64 (PB) - 1.71 - 14.39 (PB) - 23.55 (PB)

Smith - 3607pts - 13:38 (PB)- 1.77 - 11.89 - 24.39 (PB)

Mills - 3216pts - 14.82 - 1.68 - 12.86 - 25.94

 

Highgate - Night of the 10000m PBs

 

Paddy Dever finished second in 27:23.88. He has the British QT from March but faces an anxious wait to see if he will get a quota spot and, if he did, whether UK Athletics would accept it. Could fall foul of the "current form" criteria, as that indicates athletes have to perform in April-June this year. Will hopefully at least have a place in Rome for the Euros, as could a couple of the guys behind him such as Rory Leonard and Charlie Hicks.

 

On the women's side, no such drama. Megan Keith won the race in 31:03.02. She already had the OQT from March, but this satisfies the 'current form' criteria. So she's on the train to Paris if she wants to be.

 

Jess Warner-Judd behind her has a more anxious wait. She's in a quota spot and has the GBR Q from last year. But, like Dever, might fall foul of the 'current form' stipulation.

 

 

 

And breathe....that's enough for today.

 

[Rafa Maciel 1,606]

  On 5/19/2024 at 2:00 AM, Epic Failure said:

Paddy Dever finished second in 27:23.88. He has the British QT from March but faces an anxious wait to see if he will get a quota spot and, if he did, whether UK Athletics would accept it. Could fall foul of the "current form" criteria, as that indicates athletes have to perform in April-June this year. Will hopefully at least have a place in Rome for the Euros, as could a couple of the guys behind him such as Rory Leonard and Charlie Hicks.

 

On the women's side, no such drama. Megan Keith won the race in 31:03.02. She already had the OQT from March, but this satisfies the 'current form' criteria. So she's on the train to Paris if she wants to be.

 

Jess Warner-Judd behind her has a more anxious wait. She's in a quota spot and has the GBR Q from last year. But, like Dever, might fall foul of the 'current form' stipulation.

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On the question of current form - particularly for the long-distance events - I don't think the requirement should necessarily be interpreted that they have to achieve the OQS after April. 

 

Both Dever and Keith were 23 seconds outside of the OQS so I'm a bit confused how that would indicate Keith is in form, but Dever isn't. Surely that should mean they've either both done enough to show current form or neither of them have shown current form? 

 

When it comes to selection for distance events, I wouldn't look at them in isolation - Dever has the OQS for 5000m so, assuming he finishes inside top-2 at trials will be going to Paris. If he's already going and gets an invite for 10,000m, there would be no reason for UK Athletics to turn it down. Likewise for Warner-Judd, if she is able to get on the squad for the 5000m, she'd be allowed to run the 10 if she gets an invite.

 

The bigger question is whether there will actually be any invites for the 10000m - can't recall if there were any given for Budapest. 

[Epic Failure 355]

  On 5/19/2024 at 5:22 AM, Rafa Maciel said:

On the question of current form - particularly for the long-distance events - I don't think the requirement should necessarily be interpreted that they have to achieve the OQS after April. 

 

Both Dever and Keith were 23 seconds outside of the OQS so I'm a bit confused how that would indicate Keith is in form, but Dever isn't. Surely that should mean they've either both done enough to show current form or neither of them have shown current form? 

 

When it comes to selection for distance events, I wouldn't look at them in isolation - Dever has the OQS for 5000m so, assuming he finishes inside top-2 at trials will be going to Paris. If he's already going and gets an invite for 10,000m, there would be no reason for UK Athletics to turn it down. Likewise for Warner-Judd, if she is able to get on the squad for the 5000m, she'd be allowed to run the 10 if she gets an invite.

 

The bigger question is whether there will actually be any invites for the 10000m - can't recall if there were any given for Budapest. 

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Keith has the OQT already and more importantly was inside the UK 'B' time here. Dever only has the 'B' time - from March - and was just outside it. That's the difference re form.

 

I agree that the current form criteria is a bit vague. But I'm guessing it is there so the selectors aren't forced to pick someone who met the time once last summer and then hasn't got near it since.

 

So I reckon Keith is completely safe - I don't think there's any criteria they could use to not select her. Dever is *probably* safe, but doesn't have quite the certainty yet. It depends how mean the selectors are feeling.

 

Obviously, as you say, the results from the trials will impact things as well, as will results elsewhere.

 

The other complicating factor in the 10000 is the quota places set aside for cross country runners. They aren't always accepted so that can impact the number of spots that might be available for quotas as well.

[Olympicsnell 300]

  On 5/19/2024 at 8:46 AM, Epic Failure said:

 

 

I agree that the current form criteria is a bit vague. But I'm guessing it is there so the selectors aren't forced to pick someone who met the time once last summer and then hasn't got near it since.

 

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Don't disregard BUDGET CUTS!!!!!!

[Nickyc707 382]

Andrew Pozzi showing some revived form to secure an OQT of 13.23 in the 110m hurdles in France today. 

[Rich 23]

Not the fireworks of last weekend but lots of solid performances. Really looking forward to Eugene 800 next weekend!

[Rafa Maciel 1,606]

  On 5/19/2024 at 5:21 PM, Olympicsnell said:

Don't disregard BUDGET CUTS!!!!!!

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Oh man! Don't tell me the contagion is spreading! 

[Epic Failure 355]

I mean, UK Athletics have been fairly open about the fact that they are broke. So this is one example where they absolutely *are* trying to...streamline budgets. They just use the 'raising standards' excuse.

Edited May 19, 2024 by Epic Failure

[Rafa Maciel 1,606]

  On 5/19/2024 at 11:08 PM, Epic Failure said:

I mean, UK Athletics have been fairly open about the fact that they are broke. So this is one example where they absolutely are trying to...streamline budgets.

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Agree the sport has been financially mismanaged and that has had impact on their ability to stage events and may also have impacted some decisions when it comes to team selection for international competitions but it should not really an issue when it comes to the Olympics because it is the BOA who pick up the bill for sending the team rather than UK Athletics. 

[Epic Failure 355]

  On 5/19/2024 at 11:12 PM, Rafa Maciel said:

Agree the sport has been financially mismanaged and that has had impact on their ability to stage events and may also have impacted some decisions when it comes to team selection for international competitions but it should not really an issue when it comes to the Olympics because it is the BOA who pick up the bill for sending the team rather than UK Athletics. 

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True, although there is some overlap. There is consistency between how they are approaching selection for the Olympics (especially in regards to those with 'quota' places) and how they are approach selection to other Champs, where the funding is a more direct issue. So the financial issues do still indirectly influence Olympic selection.

 

Put simply, I'm willing to bet that there will be somewhere in the region of 10-15 British athletes who would go this summer if WA had their way and we used the quota system without question, but who won't get nominated by UKA. That's the indirect impact of the budget tightening. But, again, it's justified as "raising standards".