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30 minutes ago, Josh said:

Same for question for Sanford. 

Sanford has one good win in his career. Against an aging Lazaro Alveraz in the 2023 PanAm. That’s why he’s seeded here but Cuba made a mistake sending Lazaro to the PanAms and their fighter in Paris will be significantly tougher

 

It’s boxing and draws can be kind, so he might medal but he wouldn’t be considered a top 8 boxer by most pundits 

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9 minutes ago, dodge said:

Sanford has one good win in his career. Against an aging Lazaro Alveraz in the 2023 PanAm. That’s why he’s seeded here but Cuba made a mistake sending Lazaro to the PanAms and their fighter in Paris will be significantly tougher

 

It’s boxing and draws can be kind, so he might medal but he wouldn’t be considered a top 8 boxer by most pundits 

He 5-0’d all of his opponents at the Pan Am Games (mind you not the strongest of continental competitions I know, but still should be taken into consideration) and while I don’t think it warrants him being in the top half of the rankings, I thought maybe he’d be a little bit higher (never said top 8)

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5-0 just means all judges though he won. Doesn’t tell you anything about how close they were. 
 

And as ogreman points out himself, his rankings are just a guide. There’s tiers within them, so there could little difference between 9th and 14th

 

and they could all medal with some luck 

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12 hours ago, stratocumulus said:

Might I ask why is Mateusz Bereznicki according to your ranking as low as 14th? Is it because the whole line up is exceptionally strong or you just do not find him strong enough?

A bit of both I suppose. Look he did well during the qualfiers and he has moved up in my rankings accordingly, originally I didn't think he had much chance of qualifying although I did correctly pick him to come through the second world qualifier. He didn't have that tough a draw in the early rounds of any of the 3 qualifiers. There isn't much between him and Han Xuezhen :CHN or Victor Schelstraete :BEL and would give him a decent shot at beating either but they are both awkward tricky opponents who have the odd impressive win against other boxers in this draw and Bereznicki :POL just isn't/doesn't. He is a decent counterpuncher but hasn't really shown any ability to threaten the top 10 or so boxers in the draw, Patrick Brown :GBR completely overpowered him at the 1st world qualifier, Jack Marley :IRL breezed past him at European under 22s 2 years ago. Davlat Boltaev :TJK is an interesting comparison as he has a similar style to Bereznicki but is just more precise and more difficult to hit. So to simplify he could easily be 12th rather than 14th but I wouldn't really expect much from him beyond that adn to answer your original quetion, this is quite a strong lineup although far from the toughest division but also I haven't been that convinced by Bereznicki.

 

 

6 hours ago, Josh said:

Same for question for Sanford. 

Well the really simple explanation for Sanford is he lost to Jesus Cova :VEN at panamerican championships just before panam games so he goes behind Jesus Cova and Cova is ranked 12th so he goes 13th. No but like Dodge hit the nail on the head in relation to mini tiers and both of these boxers fall into that category of being ranked at the back of a mini tier and I don't think Sanford is far behind Hasanov :AZE, Clancy :IRL or Cova. What I would say though is like I'm not sure Sanford's aggresive constantly coming forward style will prove as effective at the Olympics where everyone puts everything into every fight and it is much harder to win fights by just outworking your opponent. Look I would be interested to see how a rematch with Cova would go but I think his 2022 commonwealth games loss to Reece Lynch :GBR is a decent indication of how a fight with Hasanov or Clancy would go who are both comfortably better than Lynch. Then again as he is seeded and avoided the big names seeding wise he is comfortably the most likely of the 4 to medal and if he gets significant luck with the draw may not even need to beat someone I have ranked ahead of him to reach the podium.

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