Modern Pentathlon 2024 Discussion Thread

[heywoodu 15,353]

  On 4/11/2024 at 10:11 AM, Biathlonfan said:

to stop changing the goddamn sport,enough is enough,the evoliution has been made[overdone in my opinion],and the ioc can shove it up their asses if it's not enough,while they do nothing about other sports [the boxing decisions that never go well,wrestling problems,Badminton/table tennis fixed matches] Modern pentahtlon is by far not the problem  child of the olympic movement.No there's zero chance shooting by itself is coming back,the laser run is it's own thing,but it's the most exciting final that the sport can produce, 4 laps of 800 metres by itself ?[that is the distance,they have made it as short as possible to once again please the ioc overlords] no thank you,that would be really boring and we could all predict the medalists with no problems,no athlete at the elite level wants shooting back by itself,including the few from that era that still remain in the sport,i can assure you of that.Personally i just want a new president who doesn't lick the ioc's ass[ on the uipm article announcing his retirement,no current athlete expressed their sadness,no surprise there,this was a long time coming]I think all that the fans expect would be their star athletes actually being listened to and not mowed over,like what happened with this whole riding debacle,as top athlete voices were completely ignored,over some national federation heads,that don't even have athletes at world cup level.So yeah respect for the stars of the sport would be the highest expectation i believe,along with not bending over anymore to the ioc.  

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Thanks, let's see how it turns out. Actual shooting might be my own thing then, I'd find it cool if - like in biathlon - real shooting skills play a bigger role then the super quick laser clicks where a miss costs maybe 1 second  (plus real shooting requires more skills in terms of wind reading and so on)

 

Anyhow, still looking forward to watch it in Paris, it will be my first time watching it since Tokyo, expect more of my dumb questions about how it works by that time please  

[Biathlonfan 710]

  On 4/11/2024 at 11:03 AM, heywoodu said:

 

Thanks, let's see how it turns out. Actual shooting might be my own thing then, I'd find it cool if - like in biathlon - real shooting skills play a bigger role then the super quick laser clicks where a miss costs maybe 1 second  (plus real shooting requires more skills in terms of wind reading and so on)

 

Anyhow, still looking forward to watch it in Paris, it will be my first time watching it since Tokyo, expect more of my dumb questions about how it works by that time please  

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There not dumb questions.i'm happy thay you look forward to watching it.when shooting was an event of it's own in Pentathlon,it was always done indoors,so wind was never a factor there. but there was reloading doing the first seasons of the combined event so the 2009,2010 seasons[prior to lasers coming in the picture in 2011,for the enviroment as it was said at the time.there's footage from the 2009 season if you want to see how that worked,misses did mean that 5-10 seconds were needed for a reload.   

[Biathlonfan 710]

  On 4/11/2024 at 11:03 AM, heywoodu said:

 

Thanks, let's see how it turns out. Actual shooting might be my own thing then, I'd find it cool if - like in biathlon - real shooting skills play a bigger role then the super quick laser clicks where a miss costs maybe 1 second  (plus real shooting requires more skills in terms of wind reading and so on)

 

Anyhow, still looking forward to watch it in Paris, it will be my first time watching it since Tokyo, expect more of my dumb questions about how it works by that time please  

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https://www.youtube.com/@UIPM2009/videos

[Grassmarket 3,625]

  On 4/11/2024 at 11:03 AM, heywoodu said:

 

Thanks, let's see how it turns out. Actual shooting might be my own thing then, I'd find it cool if - like in biathlon - real shooting skills play a bigger role then the super quick laser clicks where a miss costs maybe 1 second  (plus real shooting requires more skills in terms of wind reading and so on)

 

Anyhow, still looking forward to watch it in Paris, it will be my first time watching it since Tokyo, expect more of my dumb questions about how it works by that time please  

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The pistols were not .22s like biathlon, but air pistols that had to be hand-loaded and recocked after every shot.  It made it more exciting because there were lots more possibilities for nervous hands to fumble the pellets, mess up the loading etc etc as well as simply missing the target.

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[heywoodu 15,353]

  On 4/11/2024 at 2:47 PM, Grassmarket said:

The pistols were not .22s like biathlon, but air pistols that had to be hand-loaded and recocked after every shot.  It made it more exciting because there were lots more possibilities for nervous hands to fumble the pellets, mess up the loading etc etc as well as simply missing the target.

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That does sound a lot better (especially compared to the way too fast laser shooting), yes  

[Biathlonfan 710]

  On 4/11/2024 at 3:01 PM, heywoodu said:

That does sound a lot better (especially compared to the way too fast laser shooting), yes  

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but apparently not great for the enviroment,so they got cut

[Grassmarket 3,625]

  On 4/11/2024 at 3:31 PM, Biathlonfan said:

but apparently not great for the enviroment,so they got cut

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No worse than any other form of shooting. In fact, less so because no powder was used, just lead pellets & compressed air.

 

But I guess that since MP often shares facilities with other sports, unlike biathlon which has its own ranges, then nobody wants little lead bullets all over the goal line of their lovely football pitch, so that was the thinking. 

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[Biathlonfan 710]

  On 4/11/2024 at 3:54 PM, Grassmarket said:

No worse than any other form of shooting. In fact, less so because no powder was used, just lead pellets & compressed air.

 

But I guess that since MP often shares facilities with other sports, unlike biathlon which has its own ranges, then nobody wants little lead bullets all over the goal line of their lovely football pitch, so that was the thinking. 

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i remember back when the 2011 season vids were still on youtube,it was made completely about the enviroment,plus kids could practice with the laser guns,not sure they were around football pitches.

[Grassmarket 3,625]

  On 4/11/2024 at 4:19 PM, Biathlonfan said:

i remember back when the 2011 season vids were still on youtube,it was made completely about the enviroment,plus kids could practice with the laser guns,not sure they were around football pitches.

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OH, yeah, they wanted to be politically correct and make a big song and dance about climate etc, but I am sure that the practical objection was the one I gave.  Horses, on the other hand, are very welcome, nothing better for the grass than horses!  

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[thepharoah 2,405]

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What's really special and interesting about it , I don't know , Horse Riding is far much better