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[heywoodu 14,953]

Just now, Olympian1010 said:

Nope those were just their Biathlon quotas

Ah yeah, if only they had someone to fill those spots.

[Olympian1010 7,954]

Just now, heywoodu said:

Ah yeah, if only they had someone to fill those spots.

Well thanks to you and @brunamoura I now have six quotas to fill   (which is fine because combing through useless amounts of data is something we all know I love ) I think there will end up being about 20 too many biathlon quotas for the YOG this time around. 

[brunamoura 234]

Agora, heywoodu disse:

Ah yeah, if only they had someone to fill those spots.

Which they don't (at least not yet) ?

They wanted Rhaick to go for biathlon, this way they could send one more guy (someone else for cross country). But he didn't accept. I am not sure if he "fits" by his age, but that's what they were talking about.

[heywoodu 14,953]

Just now, brunamoura said:

Which they don't (at least not yet) ?

They wanted Rhaick to go for biathlon, this way they could send one more guy (someone else for cross country). But he didn't accept. I am not sure if he "fits" by his age, but that's what they were talking about.

@Olympian1010 Any idea?

https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/athlete-biography.html?sectorcode=cc&competitorid=202814

[brunamoura 234]

Agora, Olympian1010 disse:

Well thanks to you and @brunamoura I now have six quotas to fill   (which is fine because combing through useless amounts of data is something we all know I love ) I think there will end up being about 20 too many biathlon quotas for the YOG this time around. 

I don't know exactly how it works (I am mostly waiting for the new rules from FIS for the Olympics ?). So, what happen with the "non-used" quotes? Are they giving to other athletes by a ranking or just like with IBU in the Olympics they are wasted?

[Olympian1010 7,954]

1 minute ago, brunamoura said:

Which they don't (at least not yet) ?

They wanted Rhaick to go for biathlon, this way they could send one more guy (someone else for cross country). But he didn't accept. I am not sure if he "fits" by his age, but that's what they were talking about.

 

Just now, heywoodu said:

@Olympian1010 Any idea?

https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/athlete-biography.html?sectorcode=cc&competitorid=202814

For Biathlon: His birthday makes him eligible (at least according to his FIS profile). There’s no real other requirements he’d need to meet. I bet he just would prefer cross country because he‘ll place better there

For Cross Country: He has currently given Brazil a second quota on the men’s side . He just needs to maintain his position in the ranking until December 9. 

[Olympian1010 7,954]

Just now, brunamoura said:

I don't know exactly how it works (I am mostly waiting for the new rules from FIS for the Olympics ?). So, what happen with the "non-used" quotes? Are they giving to other athletes by a ranking or just like with IBU in the Olympics they are wasted?

No, for the YOG the IBU doesn’t have that unfortunate rule. They way it works for the YOG is:

1. The top 10 nations in the 2018/2019 World Cup ranking get 4 boys quotas and 4 girls quotas

2. A combined ranking was made for the other nations. The best 20 nations on that ranking get 3 boys quotas and 3 girls quotas (so by your performance in the IBU Cup, you actually earned Brazil YOG quotas )

For the regular qualification that’s it.

 

Now, if quotas get a rejected it works like this:

The next nation in that combined ranking (31, then 32, then 33, and so on) get 1 spot for each gender (assuming that both genders still have openings).

 

As it is right now, I know 6 girls spots and 5 boys spots need to be reallocated. So 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 would get 1 boy and 1 girl, and 36 would get 1 girl.

 

However, the IBU didn’t publish that combined ranking, so I don’t have any clue what countries would get the spots.

[brunamoura 234]

2 minutos atrás, Olympian1010 disse:

 

For Biathlon: His birthday makes him eligible (at least according to his FIS profile). There’s no real other requirements he’d need to meet. I bet he just would prefer cross country because he‘ll place better there

For Cross Country: He has currently given Brazil a second quota on the men’s side . He just needs to maintain his position in the ranking until December 9. 

Yep ? which probably will happen if he doesn't have DNS of DNF in São Carlos (as I said, probably his last FIS races before the deadline)

[Olympian1010 7,954]

Just now, brunamoura said:

Yep ? which probably will happen if he doesn't have DNS of DNF in São Carlos (as I said, probably his last FIS races before the deadline)

Bonfim has 2,033 more qualification points the person who’d knock him out of a quota . In fact, the Brazilian boys are ranked quite high right now. 10 and 26 respectively.

[brunamoura 234]

Agora, Olympian1010 disse:

No, for the YOG the IBU doesn’t have that unfortunate rule. They way it works for the YOG is:

1. The top 10 nations in the 2018/2019 World Cup ranking get 4 boys quotas and 4 girls quotas

2. A combined ranking was made for the other nations. The best 20 nations on that ranking get 3 boys quotas and 3 girls quotas (so by your performance in the IBU Cup, you actually earned Brazil YOG quotas )

For the regular qualification that’s it.

 

Now, if quotas get a rejected it works like this:

The next nation in that combined ranking (31, then 32, then 33, and so on) get 1 spot for each gender (assuming that both genders still have openings).

 

As it is right now, I know 6 girls spots and 5 boys spots need to be reallocated. So 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 would get 1 boy and 1 girl, and 36 would get 1 girl.

 

However, the IBU didn’t publish that combined ranking, so I don’t have any clue what countries would get the spots.

It's so painful to be an old lady 

But Iam happy to know my results were enough to earn quotes. It's just a shame we can't use them.

 

That's a fair system. At least more athletes will have an opportunity. It's a shame the same doesn't work for the Olympics.

Thanks for the explanation! ☺️