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Sprint Canoeing ICF World Championships 2023

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5 hours ago, Jan Linha said:

When I look at this info. Especially men's K2 looks to me that all the boats in final A may have the quota. Respectively, :AUS and :CAN the whole crew got the quota in K4. Which means that even though they took medals, the quotas would be reallocated to the boats below but despite the reallocation, they will still participate in K4 at the games and they will also have the opportunity to participate in K2 event if they want, right? 

Both Australians are eligible for the K2 quota because Green currently has a K1 athlete quota, not K4, while the other Australian wasn't in the K4 boat, I mixed them up because they have the same surname.

 

So these athletes in the men's K2 final are eligible for athlete quotas in that race:

 

:CZE SPICAR, Jakub (1993)

:CZE HAVEL, Daniel (1991)

:ESP DEL RIO, Adrian (2002)

:GER FRANK, Felix (1993)

:GER HILLER, Martin (2000)

:LTU OLIJNIK, Andrej (1987)

:POR RIBEIRO, Joao (1989)

:POR BAPTISTA, Messias (1999)

:HUN KOPASZ, Balint (1997)

:AUS VAN DER WESTHUYZEN, Jean (1998)

:AUS GREEN, Thomas (1999)

:SRB HOLPERT, Ervin (1986)

:SRB DRAGOSAVLJEVIC, Marko (1994)

 

So 13 athletes can take the K2 quotas and there are 12 quotas available in the race. 

 

And if Green wins the K2 quota, his K1 quota will get reallocated to :ESP CUBELOS, Francisco (1992)

 

If Germany wins 7 athlete quotas, their K1 quota will get reallocated to the next athlete in K1, so either Cubelos or :SWE NATHELL, Martin (1995)

 

 

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I will try to use this during the qualification at the Worlds to make sense of what's happening.   "Q" means gained athlete quota.   "D" will mean doubling-up, meaning that there h

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are the biggest losers in the WK4. They won the bronze at the European Games, and yet they will miss Paris. 

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Olympic quotas   "Q" - athlete quota "HQ" - host quota "D" - doubling-up, reallocation     1 2 3 4

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Women's kayak is much easier because all 18 athletes in the WK2 final are eligible for the quotas, none of them were in the K4 boats that qualified.

 

Three reallocations are possible in WK1.

 

If :DEN JORGENSEN, Emma Aastrand (1996) wins the K2 quota, her K1 quota gets reallocated to the next highest ranked eligible athlete.

 

If :FRA wins their K2 quotas, the host quota in K1 gets reallocated to the next highest ranked eligible athlete

 

If :GER wins 7 athlete quotas, their K1 quota gets reallocated to the next highest ranked eligible athlete.

 

The next three eligible athletes in WK1 are...

 

:CRO GOVORCINOVIC, Anamaria (1997)

:BUL GEORGIEVA, Yoana (2002)

:ESP CONTRERAS, Isabel (1989) - Spain may reach 7 athlete quotas with this, so in that case the next best ranked eligible athlete is...

:RSA OLIVIER, Esti (1992)

 

The one thing I am not sure of is when the reallocation happens for nations that won more than 6 quotas in men's/women's kayak. For some reason the document of the Olympic qualification system doesn't specify it. It may only happen when the NOC confirms which athlete quotas they want to use up. But now that we don't have the K1 200, it should be quite obvious that Germany will take the K2 and K4 quotas while they give the K1 quota back. 

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And finally, for the men's C2, it's very simple. As the C2 is the largest boat in that discipline, everyone in the final is eligible for the C2 quotas. Only one boat will miss out on the qualification. 

 

Two reallocation are possible in MC1:

 

If :CZE FUKSA, Martin (1993) wins the C2 quota, his C1 quota gets reallocated to next highest ranked eligible athlete

 

If :FRA wins their C2 quotas, their host quota in C1 gets reallocated to the next highest ranked eligible athlete

 

The next two eligible athletes in MC1 are...

 

:BRA GUIMARAES QUEIROZ, Isaquias (1994)

:MDA TARNOVSCHI, Serghei (1997)

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12 minutes ago, Vektor said:

Women's kayak is much easier because all 18 athletes in the WK2 final are eligible for the quotas, none of them were in the K4 boats that qualified.

 

Two reallocations are possible in WK1.

 

If :DEN JORGENSEN, Emma Aastrand (1996) wins the K2 quota, her K1 quota gets reallocated to the next highest ranked eligible athlete.

 

If :GER wins 7 athlete quotas, their K1 quota gets reallocated to the next highest ranked eligible athlete.

 

The next two eligible athletes in WK1 are...

 

:CRO GOVORCINOVIC, Anamaria (1997)

:BUL GEORGIEVA, Yoana (2002)

 

The one thing I am not sure of is when the reallocation happens for nations that won more than 6 quotas in men's/women's kayak. For some reason the document of the Olympic qualification system doesn't specify it. It may only happen when the NOC confirms which athlete quotas they want to use up. But now that we don't have the K1 200, it should be quite obvious that Germany will take the K2 and K4 quotas while they give the K1 quota back. 

Having 4 cayak give you 2 boats K2 and 2 boats K1. If you have a 6 you could take more athletes. So K1 for Germany must go to the next boat.

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Quotas in MK2: 2x:POR  1x:HUN  1x:ESP  2x:AUS  2x:CZE  2x:GER  1x:LTU 

 

Quotas for :ESP  :SWE  :ARG in MK1 via reallocation

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Olympic quotas

 

"Q" - athlete quota

"HQ" - host quota

"D" - doubling-up, reallocation

"M" - maxing out, reallocation

 

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
MK1 59 8 :POR :HUN :GER :AUS :CZE :BEL :ESP :SWE :ARG :FRA    
Q Q M D Q Q Q Q Q HQ    
MK2 11 :POR :HUN :ESP :AUS :CZE :GER :LTU          
Q Q D Q Q D Q Q Q Q Q Q D Q                    
MK4 40 :GER :HUN :UKR :AUS :DEN :LTU :ESP :SRB :CAN :CHN    
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                
MC1 22 6 :CZE :ROU :GER :POL :HUN :BRA :MDA          
D Q Q Q Q Q Q          
MC2 16 :GER :CHN :ESP :FRA :HUN :ROU :ITA :CZE        
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                
WK1 59 7 :NZL :DEN :HUN :SRB :AUS :CAN :GER :POR :SWE :CRO :BUL :ESP
D D D D Q Q M Q Q Q Q Q
WK2 12 :DEN :POL :GER :BEL :FRA :SWE            
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                        
WK4 40 :NZL :POL :ESP :CHN :AUS :SRB :HUN :GER :NOR :CAN    
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                
WC1 22 6 :CUB :ESP :CHN :USA :CHI :CAN :UKR :POL :FRA      
D D Q Q Q Q D Q HQ      
WC2 16 :CHN :ESP :CAN :GER :HUN :CUB :MDA :UKR        
Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q                

 

  Total MK MC WK WC
:GER 17 6 3 6 2
:ESP 15 6 2 5 2
:HUN 15 6 3 4 2
:CHN 13 4 2 4 3
:CAN 12 4   5 3
:AUS 11 6   5  
:POL 8   1 6 1
:SRB 8 4   4  
:DEN 6 4   2  
:FRA 6 1 2 2 1
:UKR 6 4     2
:CZE 5 3 2    
:LTU 5 5      
:NOR 4     4  
:NZL 4     4  
:POR 4 3   1  
:SWE 4 1   3  
:BEL 3 1   2  
:MDA 3   1   2
:ROU 3   3    
:CUB 2       2
:ITA 2   2    
:ARG 1 1      
:BRA 1   1    
:BUL 1     1  
:CHI 1       1
:CRO 1     1  
:USA 1       1

 

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Quotas for :GER  :CHN  :ESP  :FRA  :HUN  :ROU  :ITA  :CZE in MC2

 

Quotas for :BRA  :MDA in MC1 via reallocation

 

 

Guess who was first underline, Yes, it was Poland (: 

 

Womens Tennis Omg GIF by WTA

 

There is no chance for reallocation? Its surely the most painful dissapointed for us in canoeing as they were always on podium during World Cups this year and also had medal in European Games...

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