Swimming at the Aquatics FINA World Championships 2019

[heywoodu 16,434]

Haha, totally missed Mack Horton did indeed get an official warning  

 

But destroying one's blood samples is fine   This is fine  

[Vektor 3,326]

The way the Western media and Western swimmers are treating Sun Yang is just disgusting. I don't care that he's an asshole, this kind of unsportsmanship against any swimmer is unacceptable. Let CAS decide what happened and keep this kind of drama outside the World Championships. There are rules that everyone should follow and all Western swimmers should trust the system.

Edited July 23, 2019 by Vektor

[orangeman 2,851]

Just now, Vektor said:

The way the Western media and Western swimmers are treating Sun Yang is just disgusting. I don't care that he's an asshole, this kind of unsportsmanship against any swimmer is unacceptable. Let CAS decide what happened and keep this kind of drama outside the World Championships. There are rules that everyone should follow and all the Western swimmers should trust the system.

 

Sun got aggressive on the podium and shouted on live TV at another competitor, "You're a loser and I'm a winner!".  And yet it's everyone else's fault.  

[Wumo 3,035]

Apparently this happened between King and Efimova backstage after the 100m Breast:

 

Spoiler

 

[Vektor 3,326]

1 minute ago, orangeman said:

 

Sun got aggressive on the podium and shouted on live TV at another competitor, "You're a loser and I'm a winner!".  And yet it's everyone else's fault.  

 

The thing was initiated by Scott who didn't want to shake his hand. There are swimmers who can handle these situations and there are ones like Sun, but nothing would have happened if Scott didn't want to protest in some way. 

[heywoodu 16,434]

7 minutes ago, Vektor said:

The way the Western media and Western swimmers are treating Sun Yang is just disgusting. I don't care that he's an asshole, this kind of unsportsmanship against any swimmer is unacceptable. Let CAS decide what happened and keep this kind of drama outside the World Championships. There are rules that everyone should follow and all Western swimmers should trust the system.

The FINA system has shown itself (not only once) as something they can't trust, that's part of the whole point. Also, Sun is a different cookie than most dopers, for whom I'd agree with you. In terms of how to behave as a doper, one can take Efimova as sort of an example.

 

Sure, all the European, Australian and American media are blowing it up, just like I'm guessing the Chinese media are painting Sun as the poor victim and/or legendary hero and the rest as the bad guys.

Edited July 23, 2019 by heywoodu

[heywoodu 16,434]

4 minutes ago, wumo26 said:

Apparently this happened between King and Efimova backstage after the 100m Breast:

 

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Nah, King won so she's happy and Efimova isn't Sun.

[thiago_simoes 1,458]

So far, taking into account long course and open water swimming events,  China leads the medal table (4-1-2),  the US is in second place (3-3-4) and  Australia is third (2-2-3).

Germany (2-2-2),  Canada (2-0-3),  Brazil (2-0-1),  Hungary (2-0-0),  France (1-3-1),  Italy (1-1-4) and  Great Britain (1-1-1) complete the top 10.

No gold medals for Russia and Japan in swimming as of yet.

[orangeman 2,851]

1 minute ago, Vektor said:

 

The thing was initiated by Scott who didn't want to shake his hand. There are swimmers who can handle these situations and there are ones like Sun, but nothing would have happened if Scott didn't want to protest in some way. 

 

No, it was started by Yang being a drug cheat, destroying evidence and being ridiculously over the top after winning on a technicality.  Some other competitors are protesting silently and peacefully, that doesn't give Sun the right to be aggressive and insulting.  Maybe he's getting his cues from the thugs in HK right now, but I'll leave that to the politics page.  

 

Just to be clear, I lived and worked in China for 3 years.  I loved it, and the people.  The pollution and weather is what drove me away.  

 

 

[Vektor 3,326]

3 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

The FINA system has shown itself (not only once) as something they can't trust, that's part of the whole point. Also, Sun is a different cookie than most dopers, for whom I'd agree with you. In terms of how to behave as a doper, one can take Efimova as sort of an example.

 

Sure, all the European, Australian and American media are blowing it up, just like I'm guessing the Chinese media are painting Sun as the poor victim and/or legendary hero and the rest as the bad guys.

 

And I have seen how Western media treats every non-Western swimmer who dominates multiple events. I still can't forget how some sites started calling Hosszú a doper during Rio because they couldn't handle that a Hungarian swimmer was beating the world in many events. So let's just wait how CAS decides and keep this shit out of the competition.