Tennis Qualification to Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024

[Makedonas 2,155]

5 minutes ago, Benolympique said:

and in doubles Mladenovic would be associated with Garcia and Burel bets the other pair How is it possible to have Mladenovic in doubles??

Mladenovic is ranked 55 in doubles, Garcia is 22 in singles, so their combined ranking is 77 and definitely enough to make it in women's doubles assuming they team up together (which is very likely, and they would be one of France's best chances for a medal in tennis).

[Benolympique 2,398]

2 minutes ago, Makedonas said:

Men's doubles:

29 teams are certain if they enter.

 

2 for:          (18 total)

1 for:        (25 total)

1 for  only if Djokovic plays (with one of Djere, Kecmanovic, Lajovic only). Without Djokovic, Djere/Kecmanovic can be one of the first alternates with a combined live ranking of 102.

1 for  assuming Daniell uses his protected ranking

1 for  only if the team is Auger-Aliassime/Shapovalov, with Shapovalov using protected ranking

1 for sure for  assuming it is Koolhof/Rojer, probably a second team too (see below)

 

So that's 29 teams, which means the last 3 and first alternates are below:

 Griekspoor/Haase (78)

 Erler/Miedler (78 - I'm not sure if singles or doubles rankings have priority so they might be above the Dutch?)

 Draper/Norrie (79)

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 Matos/Melo (83)

 Gonzalez/Reyes Varela (91)

 Fucsovics/Marozsan (97)

 Tsitsipas/Tsitsipas (102)

 

Of course these are subject to change based on results from Roland Garros and challenger tournaments this week. For example, the Tsitsipas brothers would move up to 82 with a win tomorrow.

excuse me for bothering you but what would be the possible French male and female doubles? THANKS

[Makedonas 2,155]

1 minute ago, Benolympique said:

excuse me for bothering you but what would be the possible French male and female doubles? THANKS

You are not bothering me. I don't know what the combinations would be but France has many options for the men which would all qualify, so they will surely have two teams.

 

For the women, Garcia/Mladenovic should be one and the other will be Burel with either Gracheva or Parry, and probably Burel/Parry as Parry is ranked higher and they would be one of the last teams to make the cut, with Gracheva there's more of a risk they won't make it.

[MatiReimundo 347]

3 hours ago, evil betty said:

Okay, thank you. Was not sure how Navone was eligible and was trying to figure out what effect it would have if he wasn't.

Navone doesn't meet the Davis Cup Criteria, which is:

 

The player must have fulfilled the minimum participation requirement in the ITF Davis Cup or ITF Billie Jean King Cup Competitions during the Olympic Cycle, by being:

 

(a) part of the final nominated Davis Cup or Billie Jean King Cup team, and present at the tie/event (National Representation) on a minimum of two (2) occasions during the Olympic Cycle, provided that one of those occasions is in either 2023 or 2024.

 

But, there are exemptions for that rule, and Navone fulfilled two of them:

 

b) Newcomer to Davis Cup or Billie Jean King Cup Competition: A player

only reaches a ranking level sufficient for Davis Cup or Billie Jean King Cup selection by his/her National Association during the latter part of

the Olympic Cycle.

 

(c) Strength of Nation: A National Association has a large number of

highly-ranked players resulting in competition for selection, which

limits a player’s opportunities to participate in Davis Cup or Billie Jean

King Cup.

 

That's basically the reason why he can qualify, the same happen with italian Darderi

Edited June 5 by MatiReimundo

[MatiReimundo 347]

2 hours ago, Benolympique said:

excuse me for bothering you but what would be the possible French male and female doubles? THANKS

Well, France has a really tough internal battle to pick their n°1 doubles team, because they have 2 very good teams but they have to pick one. For one side, it has Doumbia and Reboul, the 33 and 34 in the Doubles Ranking, which are a good couple, used to playing on clay and definitily a good contender for a medal, knowing that they are playing together for a long time now, but on the other side you have the n°11 in the world, Roger-Vasselin, which is almost a top 10, but he plays with mexican Santiago Gonzalez, so in the olympics he will have to play with his former partner Nicolas Mahut, ranked 52 in the world. So, its really a difficult choice.

 

The 2nd Doubles Team will be one integrated between 2 of the 4 singles players, so it can be anyone, and probably they are gonna lose in the first round.

 

Humbert only has 7 doubles matches between start of 2023 and today, and he only won one (with Shelton in Brisbane), and of the 6 losses 5 were in straight sets.

 

The Monfils case is worst, because he only has 5 matches between 2020-2024, 1 win and 1 loss in Tokyo Olympics with Chardy, 1 win and 1 loss with Bonzi in Montreal 2022 and a loss with Hurkacz in last year Laver Cup.

 

Then, Arthur Fils, 7 matches in 2023 (mostly with Luca Van Assche), only one win (in Wimbledon against the Tsitsipas brothers) and then all losses. Only one match this year, also with Van Assche, a loss in the Barcelona Qualy (6-2 6-1).

 

And finally, Moutet, only one match between 2020-2024, that it was in Wimbledon 2023 with Lestienne, a straight sets loss.

 

Giovanni Mpetsi Perricard its a better option if he ends up getting into the France Singles Team, because he usually plays doubles in the season, and he doesn't have bad results (Final in Lille Challenger in February 2024 and a M25 title in 2022). Same with Arthur Rinderknech (he won the title of the Quimper Challenger at the start of the year with Guinard)

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On 6/4/2024 at 4:31 PM, MatiReimundo said:

The loss of Ruusuvuori in this week challengers pretty much close the olympics rankings as there is no more possible changes, except  Altmaier or Marterer win the Heilbronn Challenger and gets in the last spot. The Top 56 qualified players are:

 

* Based on Monday 10/06 World Ranking, some players can withdraw or not meet the elegibility criteria.

 

 Jannik Sinner ; Lorenzo Musetti ; Matteo Arnaldi ; Luciano Darderi (Cobolli or Sonego instead of Darderi)

 Novak Djokovic ; Laslo Djere ; Miomir Kecmanovic ; Dusan Lajovic

 Carlos Alcaraz ; Rafael Nadal (PR) ; Pablo Carreño Busta (PR) ; Alejandro Davidovich Fokina

 Daniil Medvedev ; Andrey Rublev ; Karen Khachanov ; Roman Safiullin

 Alex De Minaur ; Jordan Thompson ; Alexei Popyrin ; Christopher O´Connell

 Taylor Fritz ; Tommy Paul ; Sebastian Korda ; Frances Tiafoe

 Ugo Humbert ; Gael Monfils ; Arthur Fils ; Corentin Moutet

 Sebastian Baez ; Francisco Cerundolo ; Mariano Navone ; Tomas Etcheverry

 Alexander Zverev ; Jan-Lennard Struff ; Dominik Koepfer

 Cameron Norrie ; Jack Draper ; Daniel Evans

 Alexander Bublik ; Alexander Shevchenko

 Nicolas Jarry ; Alejandro Tabilo

 Jiri Lehecka ; Tomas Machac

 Fabian Marozsan ; Marton Fucsovics

 Hubert Hurkacz

 Stefanos Tsitsipas

 Casper Ruud

 Holger Rune

 Felix Auger-Aliassime

 Tallon Griekspoor

 Nuno Borges

 Sebastian Ofner

 Thiago Seyboth Wild

 Emil Ruusuvuori

 

8 Spots Remaining:

 

2 Legacy WC (probably  Andy Murray and  Stan Wawrinka)

1 Universality Spot (most likely  Valentin Vacherot)

1 Host Nation Quota (Reallocated to  Daniel Altmaier / Maximilian Marterer or  Jakub Mensik)

African Champion  Moez Echargui

Asian Champion  Zhizhen Zhang

PanAmerican Games Silver and Bronze Medallist  Tomas Barrios Vera and  Thiago Monteiro (Gold Medallist ARG Facundo Diaz Acosta quota reallocated to Monteiro because of the max 4 per country rule)

 

 

Next in Ranking in case of withdraws:

 

(1) -  Daniel Altmaier or Maximilian Marterer (in case of making at least QF or SF in this week Heilbronn Challenger or finishing ahead Marterer)

(1)-  Jakub Mensik

2-  Zizou Bergs

3-  Taro Daniel

(4)-  Maximilian Marterer (if Altmaier dont finish ahead of him)

5-  Borna Coric

6-  Stan Wawrinka

7-  Juncheng Shang

8-  Andy Murray

9-  Botic van de Zandschulp

10-  Sumit Nagal

Next - Nishioka, Galan, Goffin, Vacherot, Garin, Shapovalov, Kovalik, Kopriva, Dzumhur

 

May use Protected Ranking:

 

 Marin Cilic (direct quota)

 Denis Shapovalov (direct quota)

 Kei Nishikori (direct quota)

 Kwon Soon-woo (below Mensik in Next in Ranking for possible reallocation)

 

Players who are qualified and either withdraw or dont meet the elegibility criteria:

 

 Grigor Dimitrov (Davis Cup criteria)

 Ben Shelton (Withdraw)

 Adrian Mannarino (Withdraw)

Marterer is out. Does it mean sth for Menšík?

[Makedonas 2,155]

19 hours ago, Makedonas said:

Men's doubles:

29 teams are certain if they enter.

 

2 for:          (18 total)

1 for:        (25 total)

1 for  only if Djokovic plays (with one of Djere, Kecmanovic, Lajovic only). Without Djokovic, Djere/Kecmanovic can be one of the first alternates with a combined live ranking of 102.

1 for  assuming Daniell uses his protected ranking

1 for  only if the team is Auger-Aliassime/Shapovalov, with Shapovalov using protected ranking

1 for sure for  assuming it is Koolhof/Rojer, probably a second team too (see below)

 

So that's 29 teams, which means the last 3 and first alternates are below:

 Griekspoor/Haase (78)

 Erler/Miedler (78 - I'm not sure if singles or doubles rankings have priority so they might be above the Dutch?)

 Draper/Norrie (79)

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 Matos/Melo (83)

 Gonzalez/Reyes Varela (91)

 Fucsovics/Marozsan (97)

 Tsitsipas/Tsitsipas (102)

 

Of course these are subject to change based on results from Roland Garros and challenger tournaments this week. For example, the Tsitsipas brothers would move up to 82 with a win tomorrow.

Some updates:

 Griekspoor/Haase (78)

 Erler/Miedler (78 - I'm not sure if singles or doubles rankings have priority so they might be above the Dutch?)

 Draper/Norrie (79)

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 Tsitsipas/Tsitsipas (82)

 Matos/Melo (83)

 Gonzalez/Reyes Varela (93)

 Fucsovics/Marozsan (97)

 

Meanwhile  now in danger of not having two teams, as Dodig fell out of the top 10 (ironically due to losing to the Tsitsipas brothers but it became official today now that Vavassori made SF and passed him). Cilic hasn't played since February so if he isn't back by then, the best second CRO team would be Coric/Dodig with a combined live ranking of 98...

[Makedonas 2,155]

If  Tsitsipas/Tsitsipas win their quarterfinal, their combined ranking will increase to 68 and they will definitely qualify. Then  Draper/Norrie will still have 79 because they are qualifying based on their singles rankings, and they can't drop any more than that and would theoretically be the first alternates. Haase, Erler, and Miedler can drop in the rankings if the Greeks make the final in Paris, and the Austrians also if Galloway wins the doubles title at the Surbiton Challenger this week (he is currently in the quarterfinals). If either of those happen following a GRE win tomorrow, then GBR 2 will be safe and the last spot will be between AUT and NED 2.

 

Of course, probably there will be some withdrawals, especially considering the status of Cilic, Shapovalov (does he even want to play the Olympics on clay?), Daniell, and even Djokovic now which would remove Serbia. So probably in the end all of GRE, GBR 2, NED 2, and AUT will get in, and we will see about BRA, MEX, HUN, and possibly SRB (if no Djokovic) and CRO 2 (if no Cilic).

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43 minutes ago, stepansevs said:

Marterer is out. Does it mean sth for Menšík?

Altmaier is the only left. If he reaches SF, he passes Marterer for the fourth german place, and i have to make the maths really but i think he needs a final to pass Mensik. Anyways, if Altmaier losses tomorrow or on friday, Mensik qualifies to Paris

[Makedonas 2,155]

And for mixed doubles, I'm not sure how it works because I think they sign up at the Olympics and use the rankings for that week if I remember correctly, but using this week's live rankings and the protected rankings for some players, I believe we would have this if everyone plays (which we know won't happen because some might skip mixed doubles) :

 

1.  Gauff/Ram (8)

2.  Swiatek/Hurkacz (9) 

T3.  Siegemund/Zverev (10)

T3.  Perez/Ebden(10)

5.  Paolini/Sinner (11)

6.  Zvonareva/Medvedev (12)

7.  Pegula/Fritz (18)

8.  Sakkari/Tsitsipas (19)

T9.  Schuurs/Koolhof (20)

T9.  Bucsa/Granollers (20)

T9.  Kasatkina/Rublev (20)

12.  Rybakina/Bublik (21)

13.  Sorribes Tormo/Nadal (23)

14.  Dabrowski/Auger-Aliassime (24)

15.  Errani/Vavassori (25)

16-Host.  Garcia/Roger-Vasselin (38*)

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ALT 1.  Routliffe/Venus (29)

ALT T2.  Mertens/Gille or Vliegen - they have the same ranking (30)

ALT T2.  Vondrousova/Lehecka (30)

ALT 4.  Boulter/Salisbury (35)

ALT 5.  Siniakova/Machac (40)

ALT 6.  Stefani/Melo (49)

ALT 7.  Vekic/Dodig (50)

ALT8.  Zheng/Zhang (51)