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Which Sports have International Competitions more Important than Olympic Games?

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dareza    328

football and tennis.

 

why tennis? I will use Novak as example. Even if he win gold medal at OG, in future more imporant will be his GS titles at all GS tournemants. GS titles are most important for all good tennis players.

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LDOG    234
hace 4 horas, JoshMartini007 said:

Rugby sevens is a bit different. Before I agree it was interchangeable, but now the game has become its own sport. We've seen multiple rugby players try-out for the sevens team and fail due to lack of fitness. It has become a different game with its own strategy. It would be like saying the World Cup for futsal or beach soccer isn't the top prize for those sports because we have the World Cup for football.

 

But futsal or beach players would never make the association football team (or even play for a club). Rugby 7s and union instead have a lot of crossover. Bryan Habana for example will play the olympics, ask him if olympic gold would mean more than his world cup title.

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1 hour ago, dareza said:

football and tennis.

 

why tennis? I will use Novak as example. Even if he win gold medal at OG, in future more imporant will be his GS titles at all GS tournemants. GS titles are most important for all good tennis players.

I remember asking british tennis fans if they consider murray's win in london in wimbeldon as same as winning actual wimbledon, the answer was no, was much more important to actually win wimbledon year later

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Nickyc707    7

Football

 

Golf and Tennis - Give it more time. I think an Olympic title in tennis has grown in kudos over the past 30 years and may grow to have equivalence in the mind of the top tennis players in the future. Certainly I'd take a bet that Federer and Djokovic would give up one of their GS titles for an OG singles title. Golf is only just about to return to the OG so it is no contest re the majors at the moment. Time may change it, as I think it is gradually in tennis, but it'll be a long time before we know. The signs aren't good however. Golfers, particularly the American ones, are massively pampered and reluctant travellers. In tennis the top tournaments take place in many different countries, while of golf's top eight tournaments (the 4 majors and 4 WGC events) six take place in the US. In the case of the WGC events this is because of the reluctance of the top American (and they are not alone) players to travel which doesn't bode well for their commitment to Olympic participation even without the zika virus.

 

Cycling - Road cycling probably, although for all other forms I would say the OG are the tops.

 

Boxing - Unless they dump the misguided introduction of professionals.

 

Rugby Sevens - In the purely sevens format definitely the OG, but across all forms of the game it is the RWC.

 

So football and golf unequivocally and some others with provisos.

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heywoodu    1,115
5 hours ago, George_D said:

Football, Tennis and Golf

Among others :p (like road cycling) 

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Vojthas    19

For sure football (at least the men's event), tennis and golf. These are those sports who have more important competitions than Olympics (what hurts me) and it is seen in the attitude of athletes (in case of men's football it's the attitude of FIFA, which makes it junior competition instead of normal).

About rugby - it is sevens, which is less popular than fifteens. But for me it's ok, it's like introducing vaulting in place of dressage.

Boxing is for me the second sick sport in the Olympic programme (after weightlifting). No other sport has so many IFs. In this situation we cannot say, who really is the best.

Road cycling - I would say that Olympics are not the most important race (what hurts me again), but in opposite to football, tennis and golf we can see the best athletes racing for it. It's like second World Championships, which I think is still less prestigous than TdF, Giro or Vuelta.

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heywoodu    1,115
7 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

For sure football (at least the men's event), tennis and golf. These are those sports who have more important competitions than Olympics (what hurts me) and it is seen in the attitude of athletes (in case of men's football it's the attitude of FIFA, which makes it junior competition instead of normal).

About rugby - it is sevens, which is less popular than fifteens. But for me it's ok, it's like introducing vaulting in place of dressage.

Boxing is for me the second sick sport in the Olympic programme (after weightlifting). No other sport has so many IFs. In this situation we cannot say, who really is the best.

Road cycling - I would say that Olympics are not the most important race (what hurts me again), but in opposite to football, tennis and golf we can see the best athletes racing for it. It's like second World Championships, which I think is still less prestigous than TdF, Giro or Vuelta.

World champs in road cycling is definitely not as prestigious as the Grand Tours or the Classics (Flanders, Paris-Roubaix mostly), although being world champion is a lot more prestigious than Olympic gold :p 

 

As for football, it's quite logical. It's by far the biggest sport in the world and it's World Cup is, apart from the Olympics, arguably the biggest sports event in the world. There's no use in trying to 'beat' that importance and adding regular football to the Olympics makes no sense, because the calendar is already overflowing with matches. 

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Vojthas    19
1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

As for football, it's quite logical. It's by far the biggest sport in the world and it's World Cup is, apart from the Olympics, arguably the biggest sports event in the world. There's no use in trying to 'beat' that importance and adding regular football to the Olympics makes no sense, because the calendar is already overflowing with matches. 

Then maybe there is no place for football in the Olympic programme? I think it should be the most important competition for everyone. If FIFA has their own big show, then what for do they need the Olympics? Maybe it's time to change it for futsal or beach soccer?

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heywoodu    1,115
Just now, Vojthas said:

Then maybe there is no place for football in the Olympic programme? 

I've been saying that since the day I was born :d 

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