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  1. 7 minutes ago, Vivek said:

    what is the actual quota position now? we have won 84 including 3 from golf. Now Wikipedia is showing 34 ( i think they are adding 2 for sudha singh).So it is 33 for india. It means 117 for us so far. can we get 3 more????

     

    Athletics quotas:

    20km M Race Walk: 3

    50km M Race Walk: 2 (could be 0 as both Manish and Sandeep have met standard in 20m as well and so technically, AFI can send them to compete in 2 events)

    20km W Race Walk: 2

    Men's Marathon: 3 (think they would all compete unlike Women's marathon)

    Women's Marathon: 2 (Kavita Raut, OP Jaisha) (Lalita has clarified she wont participate and I wont be surprised if Sudha also gives Marathon a miss)

    3000m Steeplechase W: 2 (Sudha Singh, Lalita Babar)

    Dutee, Srabani, Nirmala, Tintu in Women Track

    Manpreet and Seema in Women Field

    Dharambir, Anas and Jinson in Men Track

    Vikas, Inderjeet, Ankit and Renjith in Men Field

    Total: 27 (assuming Manish and Sandeep are not selected for 20km and all marathon runners participate)

     

    For Relay, we get 6 quotas per team (minus those who qualified in individual events), so with 2 relay teams, 4x400m and 4x400w and 3 individual quotas (Anas, Nirmala and Tintu) we should get additional 9 spots. So, total is not 33 or 34 but 36. Which puts us at 120 total. 

     

     

     

  2. 6 hours ago, MHSN said:

    and apparently even Ukraine will take back the quota at 65kg

     

    and probably other disqualified wrestlers will get it back as well, terrible terrible decision by UWW , they could wait a bit before taking a decison

    If disqualified wrestlers are getting back their quotas, does that mean that the nations who got reallocated quotas are losing them? 

     

    It is really unprofessional of UWW. They should have finished dope tests before disqualification and reallocations. 

  3. 9 minutes ago, Harit Garg said:

    Swimming[edit]

    Men
    Athlete Event Heat Semifinal Final
    Time Rank Time Rank Time Rank
    Sajan Prakash 200 m butterfly            
    Women
    Athlete Event Heat Semifinal Final
    Time Rank Time Rank Time Rank
    Shivani Katariya 200 m freestyle            

    Total 105 in 14 Sports as per wikipedia

    Shivani participated in Kazan Championships in 50m and 100m Freestyle events only. So, I think, she can get Universality quota in one of those events only. It would be best if we wait for FINA confirmation. 

  4. 50 minutes ago, nitinsanker said:

    did we have any women swimmers at the world championships at kazan ? 

     

    Yes. Shivani Kataria participated at Kazan in 50m and 100m Freestyle and hence is eligible for Universality place. 

     

    50 minutes ago, nitinsanker said:

    last time I remember the issue was this 

    Viradhwal, Sandeep, Aaron and Sangvekar were ineligible to be considered for 'Universality' quota even though they had crossed the Olympic Selection Timing (OST). Their OST qualification rather made them ineligible for being considered under 'Universality' quota. hence Gagan who had competed in the World championships in the 800m but did not reach the OST was considered ................. Is this going to be the case this time ?

     

    There is nothing in the Qualification document stating that swimmers with OST ranking are ineligible for Universality quota. Also, the more I think about it the more I think FINA just accepts/rejects the application from NSF. It is NSF, who has to decide which swimmer to chose for Universality quota. But, I am not sure. 

     

    50 minutes ago, nitinsanker said:

    The other point is there is a limit of 2 per event for countries in each event so I am not sure how many such swimmers  are eligible under OST ( after removing the swimmers whose countries  have already reached the limit ) is there any such list ?

    No idea. 

  5. Regarding Swimming Qualification, below is the summary of the qualification procedure, as understood by me.

     

    All swimmers with OQT are eligible to compete in Olympics as long as NOC limit per event is followed. After this FINA adds relay only swimmers (swimmers who are part of relay team as declared by NOCs and not part of any individual event). Next FINA keeps aside quotas for Universality places. Then FINA would start inviting swimmers from OST pool. This will be done based on rankings in individual events and not overall rankings, meaning that all first ranked eligible OST swimmers in each event would be selected first, then second and so on till total quota of 900 is reached. After this, FINA gives Universality quotas to nations with no qualified swimmer (max 1 swimmer per gender). FINA only guarantees that all nations with a swimmer at Kazan Championships will be represented at Rio. It does not guarantee that such nations will have swimmers of both genders at Olympics. Any swimmer who participated at World Championships is eligible for Universality quota. S/he does not need to reach OST to be selected. 

     

    No Indian has reached OQT. I don't think any Indian is high enough in ranking to get invited on basis of OST timing. So, only chance of qualification is Universality quotas. Now, as stated above, we are guaranteed to have one swimmer. Most likely it would be male swimmer (higher ranking). Whether we have a female swimmer or not will be known only when FINA declares the universality quota. Regarding the male swimmer, there is some confusion over how male swimmer would be chosen. For London Olympics, Gagan Ullalmath was chosen in 1500m Freestyle, without him having achieved OST, ahead of couple of swimmers who had achieved OST. I am not sure whether FINA made that decision or Swimming Federation of India bungled up. So, we can't be sure about who will represent India till 5th July. 

  6. I think it would be better if we posted our teams here on the forum instead of in the spreadsheet. Just while posting my team was deleted twice, most likely by mistake by someone. But, nevertheless it could be problematic. We can have that spreadsheet till 30 and then all of us have to make final prediction on the forum

  7. Just now, kapil857 said:

    Damn this boxing qualifying tournament in Vargas is a joke. :facepalm:

     

    There are a total of just 79 boxers across the 10 weight categories. Most categories have just 6-7 boxers and 3 of them will get quotas !!!

     

    The 49 kg event has just 7 boxers and 3 of them will get quotas. On the other hand, the prev qual tournament where Devendro was robbed had around 30 boxers and just 2 quotas. Currently, 1 guy will get a bye into the semi and he has to just win either his semi final of the quota box-off, i.e., he has to win just 1 out of 2 matches, to qualify !!! 

    In 52 kg, it is 6 boxers 3 quotas. :wall:Hopefully Gaurav will the one bout and qualify for Rio. :fingers:

  8. 18 minutes ago, Prashanth said:

    Now we have women athletes in 100, 200, 400, 800 & 3000sc. Who would hv thought this 3 months ago to have sprinters go to Rio 2016.

    I did. I remember commenting after Asian Games how we have decent athletes in all women track events from 100m to 10000m, atleast at Asian level (ofcourse still missing hurdles). 

  9. 3 minutes ago, Vivek said:

    not getting any news in google regarding this, nor wikipedia adding her in Indian quota. arlier they are doing it very fast. please share the link of result.

    Source is twitter handle of KP Mohan @kaypeem, who is a retired Sports journalist 

  10. 21 minutes ago, shrikant said:

    Sanjeev rajput calibre in 50 metre rifle 3 position is anytime better than other indians in that category....unfortunately he had to forfeit his quota...Big slap to those who didnt consider him for rio

    With due respect, Chain Singh has been in much better form in the past 2 years while Gagan is a legend who is in good form as well. So, sadly if Sanjeev Rajput was selected it would have meant 1) Either Gagan Narang or Chain Singh, who are in decent form would have missed out on atleast one event 50x3 or 50 prone (or Rio if Sanjeev was selected to start in both) and 2) Young and talented Kynan Chenai would not have been able to get the exchange quota. So, leaving Sanjeev out of Rio bound team was a tough decision but it was also the correct decision. 

     

    We need to stop analysing decisions based on events that happened after the decision was made. Nobody knew Rajput would win silver here, nobody knew Pooja Ghatkar would perform so well. Based on the information NRAI (and we) had at the time of selection, I think NRAI did a perfect job of team selection. 

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    2 minutes ago, Prashanth said:

    Karman Thandi is her name who is 18 years n 644, Snehadevi 19 yrs at 468 and Ria at 19 n 610...they are coming slowly if given chances they would come up...

    We have had talent coming in tennis for quite some time. Youngsters doing decent at the youth circuit, including GS. But sadly, except Saina for a short time, none of the others have come even close to expectations in Senior Singles. I would love if these youngsters buck the trend, but history suggests that we should be cautious while having expectations. 

  12. 43 minutes ago, dcro said:

    This is incredible. Moroccan guy won the 5th place even though he didn't show up in his quarterfinal bout!! Moreover, Azeri guy who defeated Moroccan by WO (walk over) in quarterfinals also won both semifinal and final by WO.

     

    Please kick this shit from the Olympics. :sick:

    Judges must be furious. They must have lost a fortune. 

  13. 14 minutes ago, nitinsanker said:

    Can any shooter represent the quota .....................for example if shooter A wins a quota............ can the NOC select any shooter to represent the country for that quota or is that also counted as an exchange of a quota .................. what are the rules governing that 

    Shooter A wins a quota in Event X. Now, this means a) Shooter A cannot win another quota in any other event and b) Shooter A's NOC has a quota in Event X. Now, whether NOC wants to send A or some other guy B (who has MQS in Event X) is purely upto NOC. The shooter who is selected by NOC can participate in other events as well provided he has MQS in that event as well. This can be done as long as the number of shooters in that event does not cross 2 per NOC limit. If NOC wins 2 quota (A and B) in Event X and has another shooter C who has quota in Event Y and MQS in Event X, then NOC must decide which 2 shooters would take part in Event X. This is what happened with China. They decided to use shooter C and hence returning their quota. All these selections are not part of exchange of quotas. Exchange of quotas is when NOC returns its quota in Event X and instead gets a quota in Event Z. Like we exchanged Rajput's quota in 50x3 and got quota in Trap. This exchange can only be done once by NOC. 

     

    Hope this clarifies the situation. 

  14. 1 hour ago, Prashanth said:

    The Russian boxer who defeated Sumit Sangwan lost his SF bout that means Sumit fails to qualify for Rio 2016 in 81kg weight category as 5th qualifier.
    Now Dilbag Singh will fight for this quota in pro boxing qualifiers next month.

    Source? 81kg semifinals are going to be held in evening session. 

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