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  1. What temperament from Neeraj! He must have been devastated at missing out on Olympics but bounced back in tremendous form. 

     

    P.S. Dont compare his throw with Olympic standard and London throws as here Javelin would have been lighter 

  2. Though Indian cycling is improving a lot, we need to take these rankings with a bucket of salt. We have zero participation in the ongoing Junior World Championships. These rankings probably don't mean much. Almost all of our points are from Asian level events and IIRC we didn't win a medal at this year's Asian Junior Championships. (Maybe Deborah won a medal but I don't remember)

  3. 1 hour ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

     

    hmm, so i'm confused, this is a group from london, 3 way tie

    number 1 and 2 have game difference of 2

    but the point difference is better with the chinese... yet they are second

     

     

    Standings of WD - Group D

        Points Played Matches Games Points 1 DenmarkChristinna Pedersen
    DenmarkKamilla Rytter Juhl 2 3 2 - 1 5 - 3 151 - 144 2 ChinaQing Tian
    ChinaYunlei Zhao 2 3 2 - 1 4 - 2 116 - 99 3 JapanMiyuki Maeda
    JapanSatoko Suetsuna 2 3 2 - 1 4 - 3 135 - 128 4 Hong KongLok Yan Poon
    Hong KongYing Suet Tse 0 3 0 - 3 1 - 6 109 - 140

     

     

    Since, three teams are tied at 2 points each, first tie break is applied (Set score). Danes and Chinese have +2 set score and Japanese have +1 set score. At this stage, Japanese are eliminated as they have the worst set score. Now, only 2 teams are left tied. Hence, H2H is used as tie-break. Danes defeated Chinese in their match and hence are ranked higher. 

     

    P.S. It was this second position in group for Chinese team that led to comical matches and eventual disqualification of 4 teams and an unexpected and lucky bronze for Russians

  4. 1 hour ago, nitinsanker said:

    I was looking at the entry weights in 48 kgs womens ................ Hou zhihui almost surely a gold ( 204 in 2015 )  , Tanasan sopita of thailand seems a very formidable opponent as she seems to have come down a weight category ( she had lifted 200+ as a 53 kg weightlfiter in 2013) - I have no clue how much she can lift now .......... Then there is voung thi huyen of VIE who has a PB of 194 and Miyake of Japan who has 193 , then we have mirkahom with 192 

    and the indonesian Wahyuni ( 191 ) and Tpe Chen wei ling ( 191) as well ........................so it is going to be close ................... I am just praying she does not come 4th like her coach Kunjarani in 2004 olympics ................

    Its really tough to judge as there are a number of 53 kg lifters in the start list. Apart from Tanasan, we also have Margarita from KAZ (PB of 202 in 53 and 194 in 48), Piron Candelarion from DOM (PB of 199 kg in 53) and Paratova from UKR (PB of 202 in 53). 

  5. Just now, bestmen said:

    and they invite very weak swimmers while others much better are marginalized ??

     

    so :ALG  have 0 swimmers in rio because of this stupid rule  while very small microscopic island called "sandwich" have 3 or 4 ???

    Algeria should have 1 swimmer. There must have been some mistake by FINA. I am sure that when your federation will point it out to FINA, they will correct it. 

     

    If very small microscopic island called "sandwich" have 3 or 4 swimmers that means those 3 or 4 swimmers either got A standard or were high enough on ranking list to be invited with B standard and hence, they deserve to be in Rio. 

  6. 3 minutes ago, hckosice said:

     

    yes but the B standards, doesn´t mean that the swimmer is qualified, he/she must wait how many for FINA confirmation. there 900 quotas awarded overall in swimming, you must deduct all swimmers with A standard per max 2 from 1 country in all events, then also count with all tripartite (universality) invitations for "small" countries with any qualified athletes, only then FINA send invitations for the remaining quota places to swimmers with B standard, and you understand that there not many remaining places to offer, thats the reason why in some events only 3-4 swimmers with the best B times were invited

    I dont know why FINA persists with B standard. It just creates confusion. I am sure there are multiple swimmers with B standard in all events who are not qualified (same as London). Why not just have A standard and then fill remaining quotas (after Relay and Universality quotas) with best from the rest. 

  7. 4 minutes ago, bestmen said:

     

    yes 22:27 is the minima A

    many are in the list U scored over 24 second even 29 , it's cheating :wall:

    Every country which participated in last year's World Championships is entitled to one swimmer in Rio under Universality across all events. Its not cheating, it is FINA ensuring diversity in participation. 

  8. 3 hours ago, dcro said:

     

    Wow, they are allowed to make changes and thus kick out Lithuanian player less than 20 days before Rio?

     

    China had 3 pairs in top 8 in WD. BWF assumed that China would chose top 2 pairs resulting in Zhao Yunlei being selected in two events, which would create an additional quota in WS, which was allocated to Lithuania. This quota was always conditional as can be seen by the official BWF document quoted below:

     

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    If an athlete qualifies (and is selected) in more than one (1) event, then the unused athlete quota place will be allocated to the next best ranked athlete of the same gender in the singles event on the World Ranking Lists of 5 May 2016. The offer of this Quota Place will however be conditional on the athlete who is qualified in more than one (1) events being confirmed and entered by his/her NOC in the Rio 2016 Olympic Games.

     

    China had to confirm that it will use two quotas in WD by May 31 and announce its team by 18 July. China never said that it will select Zhao/Tian. China didn't make any change. Though sad for Lithuanian player, she must have been prepared for this. And blaming China (or BWF) for this is simply wrong. 

  9. 10 minutes ago, nitinsanker said:

    Road to rio on the other hand is showing 

     

    manish rawat being selected for the 20km and hence not selected for the 50km walk which would bring us back to 120 ?

     

    they are showing manish , gurmeet and krishnan for the 20km and only sandeep for the 50 km .............????:mumble:. i think the 4*400 squads are finalised !!!............it depends now the race walker squad ............

     

    On a personal front i prefer manish , gurmeet and krishnan for the 20km squad as given in race for rio as all three have been classy recently ( i am not sure why devender is being ignored his time of 1:20:21 is the best amongst the three , krishnan is just 1:21:41 - though his performance was the best in the last walk Rome 2016  ) and the 20km squad can do something special while the 50km has no chance at all 

     

    Relay squads: 4x400m Men: Anas, Arokia, Dharun, Kunhumohammed, Mohan Kr. Sumit Kumar; 4x400m Women: Nirmala, Poovamma, Anilda, Jisna, Debashree, Ashwini.

  10. 56 minutes ago, tirtha22 said:

    The Union Government has planned to bring sports fans together to celebrate the spirit of Olympics by putting up giant screens at open spaces in all major Indian cities. The concept of ‘fan park’ is a big hit among major football playing nations where fans enjoy the tournaments on giant screens set up at a central location. Sports Minister Vijay Goel said that the locations  will have giant screens, on which events involving the Indian athletes will be aired live. 

    Nice concept but not sure how successful it would be considering the huge time difference

  11. 4 hours ago, nitinsanker said:

    Incidentally :hatoff: to dolby who when I put the posting immediately said that nirmala and anas ahve to be included but tintu can be excluded ...................... I hereby vote to send @Dolby to train all the federations on the Rio rules :p, they seem to be know so little

     

    Thanks for the kind words. All the qualification documents are easily available. I don't know why federations and journalists don't take the effort to read 2-4 pages of document and avoid such fiascos. We already saw how media and Boxing federation created a hype about Wild Card for Mary Kom. And now AFI, one of the better run federations, led by a former Olympian. :wall:

  12. 1 hour ago, Vaibhav (minchu) said:

    If any of you guys are on twitter, you could give K.P. Mohan a follow. I am sure he needs no introduction and is also pretty active there with all the latest info regarding athletics.

    Already doing. Majority of the info that I have posted here regarding Indian Grand Prix 3 & 4 was from his handle only. 

  13. IAAF has released the Olympic rankings. We have now officially qualified relay teams in both 4x400 disciplines. 

     

    Strangely the list is not showing Anas in 400m individual race. Rest all are there. Does anybody know the reason behind his exclusion from the list? 

  14. 3 hours ago, nitinsanker said:

    I just saw the release of the names for athletics released by the AFI 

     

    It shows 6 names not including nirmala and Anas or tintu for each of the relays ......................so our number may go up by 2 , but manish rawat has been selected for the 20 km walk but not the 50 km walk so we may have a reduction of 1 person in the walks and an increase of 3 in the relays  ...so we may end up with 122 and not 120 ..........

    Can you please share the link to the release. I think Nirmala and Anas have to be included in relay teams. We can exclude Tintu from relay team at present and then substitute her for one of the other athletes at the time of races but don't see any logic behind doing so (except increasing strength of the squad by 1). 

  15. 17 hours ago, LDOG said:

    I personally think making a goalkeeper the captain at the olympics is a mistake, here's why:

     

    During the last friendly tournament in Valencia in match vs Argentina an indian player was shown a yellow card, but the umpires seemed to have problems communicating it (it was really strange match for them) and indian players didn't understood well who was being shown the card and as a result none of them went out of the pitch. 2 or so minutes later the umpires realized that the player was still in the pitch, told him to go out and also showed another yellow to the captain of the team (captain takes responsability for these situations).

     

    Sreejesh didn't play that day, Sardar did and was captain. Now imagine if this happens in Rio while India (like all other teams) decided to take only one goalkeeper...

    Even I have mixed feeling about it. Most likely, HI decided to unburden Sardar from captaincy to allow him more freedom and gave captaincy to long time VC, Sreejesh. I doubt they gave any importance to this incident. Honestly, I think if in Olympics, communication between players and referees would be better and such a situation would not arise. 

  16. Indian Men's Team

     

    Goalkeeper: PR Sreejesh (C)

     

    Defender: Harmanpreet Singh, Rupinder Pal Singh, Kothajit Singh, Surendar Kumar, VR Raghunath

     

    Midfielder: Sardar Singh, Manpreet Singh, SK Utthapa, Danish Mujtaba, Devindar Walmiki, Chinglensana Singh

     

    Forward: SV Sunil (VC), Ramandeep Singh, Akashdeep Singh, Nikkin Thimmaiya

     

    Reserve: Vikas Dahiya, Pardeep Mor

  17. Indian Women's Team

     

    Goalkeeper: Savita

     

    Defender: Sushila Chanu (C), Deepika Thakur (VC), Namita Toppo, Sunita Lakra, Deep Grace Ekka

     

    Midfielder: Navjot Kaur, Monika, Renuka Yadav, Lilima Minz, 

     

    Forward: Anuradha Devi, Poonam Rani, Vandana Kataria, Rani Rampal, Preeti Dubey, Nikki Pradhan

     

    Reserve: Rajani Etimarpu, H. Lalruat Feli

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