heywoodu 15,135 Posted April 8, 2018 #1181 Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sindo said: The fact it just for fun it does not mean rules should not be followed, otherwise what is post #3 there for ? And I have nothing against users who appears in the forum just on TISC (which are very few anyway and surely not a "buttload"), but if they are here just for the TISC it should mean they are really into it. Would you call a user who came here once, posted the song, never came back, came back after the deadline and contacted the wrong user for the votes as a passionate TISC fan? No, I would not, but I think half of the participants are not 'passionate TISC fans'. Just people who think it's a nice idea. I'm not saying rules should be ignored or something, by the way. Just that it's not always needed, especially for something that really just is for fun, to be super strict. But again, the last and final word should be in the hands of the organizers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindo 1,504 Posted April 8, 2018 #1182 Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, heywoodu said: No, I would not, but I think half of the participants are not 'passionate TISC fans'. Just people who think it's a nice idea. Come on, this is just playing with the words "Passionate TISC fan" and "people who think it's a nice idea" are exactly the same thing for the subject I am talking about. You can use any word or expression you want, but the concept will be the same. You can even say "people who care just a little little little little bit", and the case we are talking about would still not be included in that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted April 8, 2018 #1183 Share Posted April 8, 2018 A new forum can be a VERY confusing place. Really, why would anyone new assume that this contest always has different organizer? Is that even written in the rules? Also, remember that the Turkish user immediately entered an eligible song (released after January 1, 2017). Odds are that he actually read the rules, and not that he's some clueless rando. heywoodu 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,504 Posted April 8, 2018 #1184 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Well, Memo send me a message and he send his votes to Vini in this time........ More problems for the contest Edited April 8, 2018 by konig dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,240 Posted April 8, 2018 Author #1185 Share Posted April 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, konig said: Well, Memo send me a message and he send his votes to Vini in this time........ More problems for the contest Actually, a GUEST user reported one of my posts and when I went to see the complaint, it was the votes (maybe they forgot the password again or maybe just general confusion about how the forum works?). Honestly, if they have sent his votes to me on time (and not to @amen09), it would have avoid this mess. But that was not the case and a few things happened in the mean time, including: the draw; counting the votes of everyone (pending Moldova's correction of a vote); starting working on the vote templates which are determined by the draw; and (spoiler) Spoiler talking to participants who voted for Turkey in order to change their votes (which all did already). So yes, I'm all for the participation of different nations, but this is kind of a mess and to allow such votes now would mean that we'll have to restart some of the work that's already been done. dcro, mrv86 and konig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniSRB 899 Posted April 8, 2018 #1186 Share Posted April 8, 2018 maybe stil Turkey can take place of Antarctica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted April 8, 2018 #1187 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Well, I don't think draw is much of an issue. It should be possible to randomly pick a number (perhaps somewhere in the middle (11-30?), so that top/bottom part don't get too disturbed) and then move everyone behind a spot. Don't know about the rest of the issues though. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,504 Posted April 8, 2018 #1188 Share Posted April 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, vinipereira said: Actually, a GUEST user reported one of my posts and when I went to see the complaint, it was the votes (maybe they forgot the password again or maybe just general confusion about how the forum works?). Honestly, if they have sent his votes to me on time (and not to @amen09), it would have avoid this mess. But that was not the case and a few things happened in the mean time, including: the draw; counting the votes of everyone (pending Moldova's correction of a vote); starting working on the vote templates which are determined by the draw; and (spoiler) Hide contents talking to participants who voted for Turkey in order to change their votes (which all did already). So yes, I'm all for the participation of different nations, but this is kind of a mess and to allow such votes now would mean that we'll have to restart some of the work that's already been done. My god.....what a mess, after you say, for me is better to dont have his participacion in this time (with all the pain of the world, i like to have more participation), next time, he cand do it on time, to the rigth organizer and HE CAN REMEMBER HIS PASSWORD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 28 Posted April 8, 2018 #1189 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hi everybody! I am memo from Turkey. I apologize for participating to votation. I know it maybe difficult to accept a reason after all weeks. But really i havent keep in touch and watch the site because of my personal occupation. I really dont want you to understand my behaviour like ignoring you and the contest. I apologize again and wish that it wont be again in future. dcro, konig and DaniSRB 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinipereira 3,240 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Popular Post #1190 Share Posted April 8, 2018 While I appreciate @Memo's response, I've decided not to allow Turkey's votes in this edition. I have read all of the participants' inputs and it seems pretty divided wether to allow this participation or not, both by reasons cited here and by other concerns I have. When it was time to register the songs, there was some talk about allowing users with no (or very little) participation on the forum, but then I've decided to follow the rules and allow Turkey's entry, mainly because the user was registered on Totallympics long enough (more than a year, I think, even if it was with a different account). So now it only seems fair that I follow the rules again. One thing is to extend a deadline for someone who asks for it (for any reason) or give any indication that they will vote, other is to allow votes after some important post-voting things already happened. Allowing such votes would definitely change some placings in the final ranking, and while that would be good for some nations, it wouldn't make others very happy - even if this contest is all about fun. I have talked privately with Memo and invited him to take part in our Festival of Music next weekend and in the upcoming Open contest later this year, if he wishes so. I hope we can move forward and next week I think we will have all the templates ready to go (I'm having trouble with the logo, but it should be presented soon). mrv86, Wanderer, amen09 and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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