Cross-Country Skiing 2015 - 2017 Discussion Thread

[heywoodu 16,458]

3 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

Any news about Sundby, is he banned for the upcomming season?

 

There is no news to be expected anymore after CAS already ruled earlier this year

 

He lost the 2014/15 World Cup title and Tour de Ski victory (because the results of 2 races were scrapped) and was banned for 2 months starting in July, meaning he missed the incredibly important months of July, August and part of September 

 

 

[heywoodu 16,458]

4 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

What's so puzzling?

 

"NOCs that do not have at least 1 athlete with A-standard can send 1 athlete with B-standard." If you have then you can't, if you don't have then you can.

 

Well, yeah

 

I thought it would be explicitly written that athletes who have someone with the A-standard can not have an athlete with the B-standard  

[heywoodu 16,458]

So to get it all straight: for Brazil to get a 2nd women's quota, they have to have 2 women who have to be both in the top-300 and have less than 100 FIS points? Well that's gonna be hard 

[heywoodu 16,458]

By the way, how about this

 

 

One additional quota place...doesn't that mean that every NOC with at least 1 athlete in the top-300 gets the basic quota plus the additional quota place, meaning a total of two quota places? 

[dcro 10,211]

10 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

By the way, how about this

 

 

One additional quota place...doesn't that mean that every NOC with at least 1 athlete in the top-300 gets the basic quota plus the additional quota place, meaning a total of two quota places? 

 

"Additional" doesn't mean "additional to the basic quota". It's one additional provided that they have enough with athletes A standard.

 

[heywoodu 16,458]

11 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

"Additional" doesn't mean "additional to the basic quota". It's one additional provided that they have enough with athletes A standard.

 

 

Right, smart idea from FIS/IOC to use words/sentences that can be explained in two totally different ways 

 

Thanks  

 

Well, not really "  " because it's actually rather grim news.. 

Edited September 28, 2016 by heywoodu

[heywoodu 16,458]

Qualifying for 2014 seems to have been basically the same, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-country_skiing_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics_–_Qualification

 

How come Armenia could send 2 men, when they only had 1 athlete in the top-300 of the FIS Points List (distance)? 

 

Edit: Wait, the other athlete Armenia sent was 748th on the FIS Points List, but had only 86 FIS points, so he did have the A-standard..

I've rarely seen a qualifying system so insanely complicated..now I just really lost track of what this whole top-300 thing means and why "additional" has such a weird meaning. 

Edited September 29, 2016 by heywoodu

[dcro 10,211]

11 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Qualifying for 2014 seems to have been basically the same, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-country_skiing_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics_–_Qualification

 

How come Armenia could send 2 men, when they only had 1 athlete in the top-300 of the FIS Points List (distance)? 

 

Edit: Wait, the other athlete Armenia sent was 748th on the FIS Points List, but had only 86 FIS points, so he did have the A-standard..

I've rarely seen a qualifying system so insanely complicated..now I just really lost track of what this whole top-300 thing means and why "additional" has such a weird meaning. 

 

Yep, <100 FIS points means A standard, not top-300.

[heywoodu 16,458]

3 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Yep, <100 FIS points means A standard, not top-300.

 

I hope you don't mind me asking probably almost the same thing but in different words a ton more times in the next few days since the whole "how can a nation get two tickets in a specific gender?"-thing is of huge importance for two friends of mine who try to qualify, so I'm dead-set on getting it exactly right  

 

At least in biathlon it's all much easier to understand.

[heywoodu 16,458]

Last question for today:

 

Imagine athletes A, B and C (all women from the same nation) all have less than 100 FIS points and are for example 210th, 310th and 350th on the FIS points list, does that mean this nation can send 3 women in XC? Asking because of all nations with no "Additional" quota (whatever that may be) in 2014, all of them only have either 1 or 2 per gender, none of them have 3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-country_skiing_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics_–_Qualification