[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[dcro 10,211]

Ah, the exact moment when I did 180 with my prediction.

 

 

[heywoodu 16,475]

1 hour ago, dcro said:

Ah, the exact moment when I did 180 with my prediction.

 

 

I wonder, is this another one of those screenshots from an independent website that's nothing official at all and is most likely a correction of an earlier mistake? Just like Michigan's (?) 138k-0 for Biden at some point, which Trumpists said proved fraud, but was actually quickly debunked to simply be the correction of a mistake?  

[dcro 10,211]

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

I wonder, is this another one of those screenshots from an independent website that's nothing official at all and is most likely a correction of an earlier mistake? Just like Michigan's (?) 138k-0 for Biden at some point, which Trumpists said proved fraud, but was actually quickly debunked to simply be the correction of a mistake?  

Didn't this happen though? Trump was leading WI (according to CNN/Guardian) by 100k votes, and then it just reverted in an instant.

[dcro 10,211]

Speaking of this, were similar jumps noted in Ohio (which also flipped)?

[heywoodu 16,475]

29 minutes ago, dcro said:

Didn't this happen though? Trump was leading WI (according to CNN/Guardian) by 100k votes, and then it just reverted in an instant.

Yes, it happened. However, it was not a 'Biden votes dump', as Trump suggests it was: it was the massive dump of results from mail-in ballots coming out of Milwaukee, where Biden was expected to win by a huge margin (roughly 40 percent points I believe, which is closing in on 200k votes). That, plus the fact that Biden was very heavily winning mail-in ballots* made for a double 'bonus' one could expect from 170k Milwaukee mail-in ballots coming in. Trump obviously got a whole bunch of votes in that dump as well, it was just nothing - as expected for perfectly valid reasons - compared to Biden's numbers.

 

*Trump asked why this was possible later....it was because he himself was casting doubt on mail-in voting all the time and so Republicans barely did that!

[heywoodu 16,475]

32 minutes ago, dcro said:

Speaking of this, were similar jumps noted in Ohio (which also flipped)?

Not really I think, since Ohio started with the mail-in ballots and then, as was roughly to be expected, Trump gained ground when the Election Day votes were being counted and reported, which happened at more of a steady pace than the mail-in 'dumps'.

[dcro 10,211]

In any case, they really did a poor job counting votes. There should not be so much drama around it.

 

Heck, it's why the exit polls exist. To prevent surprises.

[heywoodu 16,475]

23 minutes ago, dcro said:

In any case, they really did a poor job counting votes. There should not be so much drama around it.

 

Heck, it's why the exit polls exist. To prevent surprises.

Exit-polls won't help much when there's such an insane amount of mail-in ballots, which both candidates actively pushed towards one side. Plus one can wonder anyway how many surprises there really were. A lot of the turnarounds really were not that surprising given the combination of where votes still had to come from and what kind of votes they were.

[dcro 10,211]

 

 

[dcro 10,211]

So, basically, just now they not-so-secretly admitted that the Georgia recount will not go in their favor.

 

(They suspect the recount will still include fraudulent ballots. )