Olympian1010 7,491 Posted October 13, 2020 #6871 Share Posted October 13, 2020 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,186 Posted October 13, 2020 #6872 Share Posted October 13, 2020 China, Cuba, Russia elected for the UN Human Rights Council. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opruh 129 Posted October 13, 2020 #6873 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,491 Posted October 13, 2020 #6874 Share Posted October 13, 2020 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,600 Posted October 14, 2020 #6875 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, dcro said: China, Cuba, Russia elected for the UN Human Rights Council. It's quite understandable as USA quitting due to its condemning over Israel annexation. Without support of China and Russia, this organization may totally lose its international influence and becoming some crazy old lady keeps murmuring who nobody cares. No UN body could function normally when it loses support of USA, China and Russia simultaneously and UN is already trying very hard to balance the big powers from democracy to authoritarian, and from liberals to conservatives. Politics is not about idealism but compromises. opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,491 Posted October 14, 2020 #6876 Share Posted October 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, Vic Liu said: It's quite understandable as USA quitting due to its condemning over Israel annexation. Without support of China and Russia, this organization may totally lose its international influence and becoming some crazy old lady keeps murmuring who nobody cares. No UN body could function normally when it loses support of USA, China and Russia simultaneously and UN is already trying very hard to balance the big powers from democracy to authoritarian, and from liberals to conservatives. Politics is not about idealism but compromises. And they can’t function as they should with their interference. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,600 Posted October 14, 2020 #6877 Share Posted October 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: And they can’t function as they should with their interference. They will and always interfere China’s issue by condemning and they also interfere Israel annexation by condemning. But in exchange, they lost huge Income from USA but what did they get in return? Self recognition and moral heights? What if they lose the second largest income source from China again? Who to pay the settlement fees of Rohinga refugees and other political and war related refugees? I am not saying that no human rights issue in China and Russia nor they are models to praise. But in practice the motivation of every vote is selfish and complex especially for those developing countries leaning on big powers. UN is not Utopia but a real battle ground of geopolitics. opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,491 Posted October 14, 2020 #6878 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Vic Liu said: They will and always interfere China’s issue by condemning and they also interfere Israel annexation by condemning. But in exchange, they lost huge Income from USA but what did they get in return? Self recognition and moral heights? What if they lose the second largest income source from China again? Who to pay the settlement fees of Rohinga refugees and other political and war related refugees? I am not saying that no human rights issue in China and Russia nor they are models to praise. But in practice the motivation of every vote is selfish and complex especially for those developing countries leaning on big powers. UN is not Utopia but a real battle ground of geopolitics. Which is an issue because the idea was to curb geopolitical conflicts, not add a new dimension to them. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,600 Posted October 14, 2020 #6879 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said: Which is an issue because the idea was to curb geopolitical conflicts, not add a new dimension to them. Somehow it's true. But also thanks to the stage of UN, we human kinds already avoided a lot of potential hot wars replaced by diplomatic and political battles. Olympian1010 and opruh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,491 Posted October 14, 2020 #6880 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Vic Liu said: Somehow it's true. But also thanks to the stage of UN, we human kinds already avoided a lot of potential hot wars replaced by diplomatic and political battles. Yep, which is why I’d describe the UN as a necessary/useful tool for peace, but also a flawed one “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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