Swimming 2018 Discussion Thread

[phelps 8,407]

Olympic double Bronze medallist (400m & 1500m Free) and 800m Free reigning World Champion Gabriele Detti (ITA) is officially out of the 2018 European Championships, after his left shoulder injury is slightly improving, but not enough to allow him to be in decent shape for this event (and it's also a precautional decision of not trying to hard and making further damages to his left shoulder ahead of the 2019 and 2020 seasons, which are a lot more important to him and to Italian swimming than this year's Continental Champs)...

[Gianlu33 5,423]

16 minuti fa, phelps ha scritto:

Olympic double Bronze medallist (400m & 1500m Free) and 800m Free reigning World Champion Gabriele Detti (ITA) is officially out of the 2018 European Championships, after his left shoulder injury is slightly improving, but not enough to allow him to be in decent shape for this event (and it's also a precautional decision of not trying to hard and making further damages to his left shoulder ahead of the 2019 and 2020 seasons, which are a lot more important to him and to Italian swimming than this year's Continental Champs)...

Good choice for our federation... i was scary about his possible partecipation

[dareza 911]

OMG 26.65 for Caba Siladji at 50 breaststroke on national championhsip today No way.

 

edit: and now they deleted result, now it is not official It was mistake 99%, this is huge for him. We will see soon.

 

edit 2: yes that was mistake as expected."Only" 27.3 at the end.

Edited July 21, 2018 by dareza

[phelps 8,407]

Day #1 of the US Nationals in Irvine (CA)...

 

the tournament works as trials for the next Pan-Pacific Games (later in August) and partially (only the winner of each individual event is granted a spot) also for next year's World Championships in South Korea...

 

Women's 800m Free

Katie Ledecky, 8.11.98

Leah Smith, 8.22.79

 

Men's 1500m Free

Jordan Wilimovsky, 14.48.89

 

Women's 200m Fly

Hali Flickinger, 2.06.14 (2.05.87 in the heats, US Champs record)

Katie Drabot, 2.07.18

 

Men's 200m Fly

Justin Wright, 1.54.63

...

3rd, Gianluca Urlando (clear Italian heritage, I'd say), 1.55.11 (2nd fastest ever at that age behind a certain Michael Phelps*, since he's only 15 -by the way, earlier this year, he already swam 49.70 in the 100 yards fly and 46.77 in the 100 yards free)...

*Phelps at the same age had a 1.54.58 PB

 

Women's 100m Free

Simone Manuel, 52.54 (US Champs record)

Mallory Comerford, 53.09

Margo Geer, 53.44

 

Men's 100m Free

Blake Pieroni, 48.08

Nathan Adrian, 48.25

Townley Haas, 48.30

6th, Caeleb Dressel, 48.50

Edited July 26, 2018 by phelps

[heywoodu 16,182]

5 minutes ago, phelps said:

 

Men's 100m Free

Blake Pieroni, 48.08

Nathan Adrian, 48.25

Townley Haas, 48.30

6th, Caeleb Dressel, 48.50

 

So Dressel has to qualify for next year's world championships in another way?

[phelps 8,407]

37 minuti fa, heywoodu ha scritto:

 

So Dressel has to qualify for next year's world championships in another way?

 

yes, but I don't know if they will use next year's Nationals or another system (with more flexibility than the previous years)...

however, I guess they will go for the 1-shot event next summer just before the World Champs, as they normally do with the Olympic Trials...

[OlympicsFan 860]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb phelps:

 

yes, but I don't know if they will use next year's Nationals or another system (with more flexibility than the previous years)...

however, I guess they will go for the 1-shot event next summer just before the World Champs, as they normally do with the Olympic Trials...

https://swimswam.com/whats-at-stake-at-2018-u-s-nationals-all-selection-procedures-here/

I think he won't be able to swim the 100 free individually at the 2019 worlds, but only the relay. I guess he can still gain an individual spot in the 100 fly or 50 free.

[phelps 8,407]

20 ore fa, OlympicsFan ha scritto:

https://swimswam.com/whats-at-stake-at-2018-u-s-nationals-all-selection-procedures-here/

I think he won't be able to swim the 100 free individually at the 2019 worlds, but only the relay. I guess he can still gain an individual spot in the 100 fly or 50 free.

 

that's interesting...and a big blow for him...

 

by the way, here's a recap of day #2 at the US Nationals 2018...

 

women's 200m Free

Katie Ledecky, 1.54.60

Allison Schmitt, 1.55.82

Gabby Deloof, 1.56.55

Leah Smith, 1.56.93

 

men's 200m Free

Andrew Seliskar, 1.45.70

Blake Pieroni, 1.45.93

Conor Dwyer, 1.46.08

Townley Haas, 1.46.15

 

women's 200m Breaststroke

Micah Sumrall, 2.22.06 (formerly known as Micah Lawrence before marriage)

Bethany Galat, 2.23.32

5th, Lilly King, 2.25.31

 

men's 200m breaststroke

Josh Prenot, 2.07.28

Andrew Wilson, 2.08.71

 

women's 200m Backstroke

Kathleen Baker & Regan Smith, tied with 2.06.43 (Smith is only 16 years old, they say it's a new JWR, but I'm not sure about it...Franklin could have been faster while technically still a junior )

 

men's 200m Backstroke

Ryan Murphy, 1.54.15

Jacob Pebley, 1.55.68

 

women's 50m Fly

Kelsi Dahlia, 25.48 (formerly known as Worrel before marriage, the time equals her own American record from last year's Worlds)

Kendyl Stewart, 25.83

 

men's 50m fly

Michael Andrew, 22.93

Caeleb Dressel, 22.97

 

[heywoodu 16,182]

Not being able to swim in the world championships because you weren't good enough one year before is so stupid 

[OlympicsFan 860]

vor 30 Minuten schrieb phelps:

 

that's interesting...and a big blow for him...

 

by the way, here's a recap of day #2 at the US Nationals 2018...

 

women's 200m Free

Katie Ledecky, 1.54.60

Allison Schmitt, 1.55.82

Gabby Deloof, 1.56.55

Leah Smith, 1.56.93

 

men's 200m Free

Andrew Seliskar, 1.45.70

Blake Pieroni, 1.45.93

Conor Dwyer, 1.46.08

Townley Haas, 1.46.15

 

women's 200m Breaststroke

Micah Sumrall, 2.22.06 (formerly known as Micah Lawrence before marriage)

Bethany Galat, 2.23.32

5th, Lilly King, 2.25.31

 

men's 200m breaststroke

Josh Prenot, 2.07.28

Andrew Wilson, 2.08.71

 

women's 200m Backstroke

Kathleen Baker & Regan Smith, tied with 2.06.43 (Smith is only 16 years old, they say it's a new JWR, but I'm not sure about it...Franklin could have been faster while technically still a junior )

 

men's 200m Backstroke

Ryan Murphy, 1.54.15

Jacob Pebley, 1.55.68

 

women's 50m Fly

Kelsi Dahlia, 25.48 (formerly known as Worrel before marriage, the time equals her own American record from last year's Worlds)

Kendyl Stewart, 25.83

 

men's 50m fly

Michael Andrew, 22.93

Caeleb Dressel, 22.97

 

About womens 200 back: Franklin was certainly faster as a junior (2:04.06 at the 2012 olympics), but FINA doesnt count those times. I think junior world records were introduced in 2014 or 2015 and only times achieved since then + times swum at previous editions of junior world championships count as junior world records. In many other events the official junior world records arent the fastest times ever swum by a junior, for example:

In mens 400 free the junior world record officially is 3:44.60 by Mack Horton from 2014, while Ian Thorpe swam 3:40.59 as a junior at the 2000 olympics. Danila Izotov swam 1:43.90 in the 200 free as a junior in 2009, but the record is 1:46.40 by Ivan Girev from 2017. Michael Phelps swam 1:55.94 in the 200 IM as a junior, at the 2003 world championships but the record is 1:57.06 by Qin Haiyang from 2017. Kosuke Hagino swam 4:08.94 in the 400 IM as a junior at the 2012 olympics, but the record is 4:14.00 by Sean Grieshop from 2014. On the womens side 24.33 by Rikako Ikee from 2017 in the 50 free is a record instead of 23.99 by Cate Campbell from 2009. In the 100 back the record is 58.95 by Regan Smith from last year instead of 58.33 by Franklin from 2012. In the 200 fly its 2:06.29 by Hasegawa instead of 2:04.72 by Jiao Liuyang. In the 200 IM its 2:09.98 by Ikee instead of 2:07.57 by Ye Shiwen and in the 400 IM its 4:39.01 by Rosie Rudin instead of 4:28.43 by Ye Shiwen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_junior_world_records_in_swimming

 

Edited July 27, 2018 by OlympicsFan