De_Gambassi 1,223 Posted March 12, 2016 #41 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just now, VolleyRuller96 said: The final tournament of European League will be hosted by Varna, Bulgaria i just can't understand CEV/ FiVB anymore. HOW Exactly do they want to promote volleyball, when almost every tournament, important or not important, is hosted by the same group of countries (Poland, Italy, Brazil, Bulgaria & Japan) and they do not offer basically any legal way to watch the games, especially CEV? Even if they suspect the turnout wouldn't be very big in Albania, Estonia etc it's THEIR freakin' job as sports federation to make sure it will be at least acceptable. For the same reason they came up with these ridiculous tournaments formulas and the four or five different world something things we have now. They are only intrested in short term financial interests and to make the most of the relative small fan base they have. They are shutting the door to millions of potential new fans in new countries. They are basically digging volleyball's hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 824 Posted March 18, 2016 #42 Share Posted March 18, 2016 A second Russian Volleyballer has been tested positive: http://www.sport1.de/volleyball/2016/03/volleyball-nach-dem-naechsten-dopingfall-eines-russischen-spielers-wird-der-deutsche-olympia-traum-konkreter Obmochaev did play at the Qualification Tournament, though it isn't known so far if he was tested positive at this tournament or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batbobi 21 Posted March 18, 2016 #43 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Men's Volleyball FIVB World Qualifying Tournament for Summer Olympic Games 2016 Tokyo (JPN) - May 28th - June 5th, 2016 Mexico City (MEX) - June 3rd - June 5th, 2016 Official Site 1st World Tournament Qualified Nations Australia Canada China France Iran Japan Poland Venezuela 2nd World Tournament Qualified Nations Algeria Chile Mexico Tunisia Road to Rio Summer Olympics 2016 1st World Tournament The 1st Asian Team and the top 3 non Asian Teams will qualify for the 2016 Summer Olympics 2nd World Tournament The best ranked Nation will qualify for the 2016 Summer Olympics Edited May 11, 2016 by batbobi TWF Universal Champion 2x TWF Universal Champion - 69 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batbobi 21 Posted March 18, 2016 #44 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Competition's Format Round Robin May 28th - June 5th, 2016 8 Nations, Round Robin, 1st Asian and top 3 non Asian Nations will qualify to the 2016 Summer Olympic Games Round Robin June 3rd - June 5th, 2016 4 Nations, Round Robin, the winner will qualify to the 2016 Summer Olympic Games Edited May 11, 2016 by batbobi TWF Universal Champion 2x TWF Universal Champion - 69 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batbobi 21 Posted March 18, 2016 #45 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Round Robin May 28th - June 5th, 2016 8 Nations, Round Robin, 1st Asian and top 3 non Asian Nations will qualify to the 2016 Summer Olympic Games Australia Canada China France Iran Japan Poland Venezuela Schedule All times are Japan Standard Time (GMT +9) Iran 3 - 0 Australia 25-19, 25-17, 25-18 May 28th 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo China 1 - 3 France 13-25, 25-22, 23-25, 21-25 May 28th 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Poland 3 - 2 Canada 25-18, 17-25, 25-21, 18-25, 15-9 May 28th 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Japan 3 - 1 Venezuela 26-28, 25-20, 25-19, 25-19 May 28th 2016, h. 19:10, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Canada 2 - 3 Iran 29-27, 25-19, 20-25, 21-25, 14-16 May 29th 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Venezuela 1 - 3 Australia 25-19, 20-25, 10-25, 19-25 May 29th 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo France 2 - 3 Poland 25-22, 25-13, 29-31, 17-25, 12-15 May 29th 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Japan 0 - 3 China 20-25, 22-25, 23-25 May 29th 2016, h. 19:05, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Australia 2 - 3 Canada 19-25, 26-24, 25-20, 27-29, 11-15 May 31st 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo China 3 - 0 Venezuela 25-16, 25-18, 25-15 May 31st 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Iran 0 - 3 France 20-25, 18-25, 22-25 May 31st 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Poland 3 - 0 Japan 25-22, 25-16, 25-23 May 31st 2016, h. 19:10, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Venezuela 0 - 3 Canada 20-25, 20-25, 25-27 June 1st 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo France 3 - 1 Australia 25-22, 25-18, 16-25, 44-42 June 1st 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo China 2 - 3 Poland 28-26, 25-20, 16-25, 17-25, 10-15 June 1st 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Japan 1 - 3 Iran 20-25, 25-19, 22-25, 25-27 June 1st 2016, h. 19:05, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Canada 0 - 3 France 17-25, 17-25, 16-25 June 2nd 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Iran 3 - 2 China 26-24, 22-25, 25-19, 17-25, 18-16 June 2nd 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Poland 3 - 0 Venezuela 25-21, 25-17, 25-18 June 2nd 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Australia 3 - 0 Japan 25-23, 25-19, 29-27 June 2nd 2016, h. 19:10, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo China 1 - 3 Australia 23-25, 22-25, 25-20, 24-26 June 4th 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Venezuela 2 - 3 France 21-25, 25-23, 11-25, 25-20, 9-15 June 4th 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Poland 1 - 3 Iran 20-25, 18-25, 25-20, 32-34 June 4th 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Japan 1 - 3 Canada 25-23, 19-25, 21-25, 19-25 June 4th 2016, h. 19:05, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Iran 3 - 2 Venezuela 25-23, 27-29, 21-25, 25-18, 15-8 June 5th 2016, h. 10:00, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Canada 3 - 2 China 25-16, 20-25, 24-26, 25-20, 15-9 June 5th 2016, h. 12:45, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Australia 0 - 3 Poland 21-25, 15-25, 25-27 June 5th 2016, h. 15:30, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo France 0 - 3 Japan 18-25, 23-25, 23-25 June 5th 2016, h. 19:10, Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium, Tokyo Round Robin Final Standing Matches Pts Sets Points Rank Team W L W L Ratio W L Ratio 1 Poland 6 1 15 19 9 2.111 639 584 1.094 2 Iran 6 1 15 18 11 1.636 668 637 1.049 3 France 5 2 15 17 10 1.700 637 571 1.116 4 Canada 4 3 12 16 14 1.143 654 640 1.022 5 Australia 3 4 10 12 14 0.857 599 612 0.979 6 China 2 5 9 14 15 0.933 627 635 0.987 7 Japan 2 5 6 8 16 0.500 547 573 0.955 8 Venezuela 0 7 2 6 21 0.286 524 643 0.815 Edited June 8, 2016 by batbobi TWF Universal Champion 2x TWF Universal Champion - 69 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted March 18, 2016 #46 Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, EselTheDonkey said: A second Russian Volleyballer has been tested positive: http://www.sport1.de/volleyball/2016/03/volleyball-nach-dem-naechsten-dopingfall-eines-russischen-spielers-wird-der-deutsche-olympia-traum-konkreter Obmochaev did play at the Qualification Tournament, though it isn't known so far if he was tested positive at this tournament or later. He didnt play against Germany or France (in the final), so this probably wont have any effect on the decision whether Russia will be disqualified or not. Edit: I think he played in the 4th set against France, but he didnt have a big impact. Edited March 18, 2016 by OlympicsFan Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 824 Posted March 18, 2016 #47 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 minute ago, OlympicsFan said: He didnt play against Germany or France (in the final), so this probably wont have any effect on the decision whether Russia will be disqualified or not. Edit: I think he played in the 4th set against France, but he didnt have a big impact. Once two team members are tested positive, the team has to be disqualified. That's the case now. The only question is, if he was tested positive during that tournament or later. If the positive test was later, there might still be a chance for Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted March 18, 2016 #48 Share Posted March 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said: Once two team members are tested positive, the team has to be disqualified. That's the case now. The only question is, if he was tested positive during that tournament or later. If the positive test was later, there might still be a chance for Russia. FIVB still would have two possible excuses: 1) He wasnt really part of the team, because he didnt play. He didnt have any impact on the game. 2) Meldonium became illegal at the end of 2015. Maybe the russian players took it at the end of 2015 (when it was still legal), but the test was still positive, because their body wasnt able to "get rid" of Meldonium fast enough. opruh 1 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted March 18, 2016 #49 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If he indeed tested positive at the OQT and FIVB lets Russia still go to Rio, we know the deal. The rules stated pretty clear that 2 positive tests for a team = DSQ. The impact the player had only matters when it's about one positive test, not when it's about multiple. He played, so he was part of the team, even if it was for only 5 seconds. (I think someone posted these rules somewhere up in this thread) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted March 20, 2016 #50 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 18.3.2016 at 2:50 PM, heywoodu said: If he indeed tested positive at the OQT and FIVB lets Russia still go to Rio, we know the deal. The rules stated pretty clear that 2 positive tests for a team = DSQ. The impact the player had only matters when it's about one positive test, not when it's about multiple. He played, so he was part of the team, even if it was for only 5 seconds. (I think someone posted these rules somewhere up in this thread) Yes Gambassi and me posted the rules earlier, but do you really think that an organization like FIVB will necessarily apply the rules? We are talking about Russia, the defending olympic champion ... After all that happened with Goijman i dont expect anything at all from FIVB (anymore) ... Of course we could go to CAS, but there probably wont be enough time to decide before the qualification tournament starts. First we should wait if the positive test was really at the qualification tournament or if there will be even more positive doping tests (for other nations). I am pretty sure now that one positive doping test wont be enough to disqualify Russia. For our team and especially our coach it would be amazing to play in Rio, considering that it will be the last tournament for our coach and for many of our players (for example Grozer). In 2008 and 2012 we were pretty lucky to qualify, so maybe we just used up all our luck for the last 2 olympic games ... Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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