OlympicsFan 858 Posted May 9, 2016 #151 Share Posted May 9, 2016 There cant be any doubt that Tallent was robbed in 2012. Of course he got the gold medal, but that will never be the same as crossing the line first and hearing your national athem in addition to that his "market value" probably would have been much higher in Australia is "real" olympic champion, so he could have earned much more money. The story about Schwazer is really funny, if i understood it correct, it happened like this: He won the gold medal in 2008 Then he noticed that he wasnt good enough, so he started doping, but was still slower at 50 km than in 2008 Then he got caught and was banned for 4 years This year he comes back clean as a 31 year old and is about 1 minute faster in his first competition than in 2012 when he was caught doping Did i sum it up correctly? In the end it tells the who story, when some doper in race walking is called a shame by his own team mates and gets more attention then all the russian dopers in race walking together. I think it doesnt really matter whether he is clean now or not, someone who used EPO should never again be allowed to compete, because he will profit from it for his whole life, so you could say that he can never be clean, no matter if he is still doping or not. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 14,768 Posted May 9, 2016 #152 Share Posted May 9, 2016 oh what a time!!!, so I assume our historic first olympic athletics medal dream is likely over, no chance now, I was afraid about Diniz and now Schwazer...oh god.. but well... to be fair, if he´ll not been able to beat them, he doesn´t deserve the medal then..simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted May 9, 2016 #153 Share Posted May 9, 2016 25 minutes ago, hckosice said: oh what a time!!!, so I assume our historic first olympic athletics medal dream is likely over, no chance now, I was afraid about Diniz and now Schwazer...oh god.. but well... to be fair, if he´ll not been able to beat them, he doesn´t deserve the medal then..simple as that. But Toth still has much faster PB than that. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,239 Posted May 9, 2016 #154 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Brazil is showing good results in Race Walking recently, achieving a 4th (Women's) and 8th places (Men's) this weekend. I wonder if Race Walking can give us our ONLY medal in Athletics at Rio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 14,768 Posted May 9, 2016 #155 Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 hours ago, dcro said: But Toth still has much faster PB than that. yes he has. but it´s from last year´s march and it not include his traditional WC toilet break between 30-35 km like last worlds champs well, we´ll see, he is trained hard and focused this whole season only for the Rio 50k. He decided to not enter any race before, just training every day. so looking forward what it will done the day D. I really wish him a medal, even a bronze, it would be something unbelievable for our country. something unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 14,901 Posted May 10, 2016 #156 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, OlympicsFan said: There cant be any doubt that Tallent was robbed in 2012. Of course he got the gold medal, but that will never be the same as crossing the line first and hearing your national athem in addition to that his "market value" probably would have been much higher in Australia is "real" olympic champion, so he could have earned much more money. The story about Schwazer is really funny, if i understood it correct, it happened like this: He won the gold medal in 2008 Then he noticed that he wasnt good enough, so he started doping, but was still slower at 50 km than in 2008 Then he got caught and was banned for 4 years This year he comes back clean as a 31 year old and is about 1 minute faster in his first competition than in 2012 when he was caught doping Did i sum it up correctly? In the end it tells the who story, when some doper in race walking is called a shame by his own team mates and gets more attention then all the russian dopers in race walking together. I think it doesnt really matter whether he is clean now or not, someone who used EPO should never again be allowed to compete, because he will profit from it for his whole life, so you could say that he can never be clean, no matter if he is still doping or not. No, you forget the part where he asked his girlfriend Carolina Kostner to lie in order to not get tested while "hot" resulting in her receiving a ban as well. Such a gentleman, this Alex But indeed, when even his team "mates" hate him from the bottom of their hearts, it's clear enough. Even more so, one of them will actually miss the Olympics because his ticket is stolen by a proven and self-confessed EPO-cheat. It's a miracle he didn't attack Schwazer. Edited May 10, 2016 by heywoodu If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 14,901 Posted May 10, 2016 #157 Share Posted May 10, 2016 19 hours ago, vinipereira said: Brazil is showing good results in Race Walking recently, achieving a 4th (Women's) and 8th places (Men's) this weekend. I wonder if Race Walking can give us our ONLY medal in Athletics at Rio... I think the chance of Brazil winning exactly 1 athletics medal in Rio and this coming from race walking is like 0,01% If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted May 10, 2016 #158 Share Posted May 10, 2016 vor 1 Minute schrieb heywoodu: I think the chance of Brazil winning exactly 1 athletics medal in Rio and this coming from race walking is like 0,01% I agree, Brazil has much better medal chances in mens long jump and mens/womens pole vault. In mens race walking there is no medal chance and on the womens side maybe a very small chance, but i think medals on the womens side will go to China, Czech Republich, Italy or Russia. On the mens side medals should go to China, Japan, France, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Italy or Australia. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,239 Posted May 10, 2016 #159 Share Posted May 10, 2016 2 horas atrás, OlympicsFan disse: I agree, Brazil has much better medal chances in mens long jump and mens/womens pole vault. In mens race walking there is no medal chance and on the womens side maybe a very small chance, but i think medals on the womens side will go to China, Czech Republich, Italy or Russia. On the mens side medals should go to China, Japan, France, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Italy or Australia. Yes, I keep forgetting Russia isn't participating in these things. Frankly I don't know what to expect from their team in Rio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,239 Posted May 10, 2016 #160 Share Posted May 10, 2016 2 horas atrás, heywoodu disse: I think the chance of Brazil winning exactly 1 athletics medal in Rio and this coming from race walking is like 0,01% I don't know... I think there's a good chance of us winning a total of 0 medals, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got a medal in the women's race walking. Maybe we get a medal with Murer but competition is tougher than ever, and her Olympic history is "disastrous" to say the least. Thiago Braz has good marks, but still needs to win a medal in a big competition. Other possibilty is the men's Marathon, not that we are favourite in any way. All in all I'm predicting zero medals in Athletics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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