heywoodu 13,573 Posted May 9, 2016 #281 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, JoshMartini007 said: I missed the German trials, but here's a list according to SwimSwam of the athletes which made the "long list" Women: Franziska Hentke – 400m IM, 200m Butterfly Sarah Köhler – 400m and 800m Freestyle Leonie Antonia Beck – 800m Freestyle Lisa Graf – 200m Backstroke Alexandra Wenk – 200m IM, 100m Butterfly Dorothea Brandt – 50m Freestyle Men: Jacob Heidtmann – 400m IM Johannes Hintze – 400m IM Florian Wellbrock – 1500m Freestyle Florian Vogel – 200 m and 400m Freestyle Jan-Philip Glania – 100 m and 200m Backstroke Christian Diener – 200m Backstroke Damian Wierling – 50m Freestyle Philip Heintz – 200m IM Marco Koch – 200m Breaststroke Paul Biedermann – 200m Freestyle Christoph Fildebrandt – 200m Freestyle No 4x100 free women, cause "they're too skinny", according to the coach. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 9, 2016 #282 Share Posted May 9, 2016 vor 30 Minuten schrieb heywoodu: No 4x100 free women, cause "they're too skinny", according to the coach. Yes, they look like skinny models next to girls like Sjöstrom or Ottesen ... I hope that we can back to our old strength in womens freestlye sprint by Tokyo, especially Gose is an amazing talent. Do you have the opportunity to find out how fast Steenbergen was 2 years ago? Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,573 Posted May 9, 2016 #283 Share Posted May 9, 2016 24 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: Yes, they look like skinny models next to girls like Sjöstrom or Ottesen ... I hope that we can back to our old strength in womens freestlye sprint by Tokyo, especially Gose is an amazing talent. Do you have the opportunity to find out how fast Steenbergen was 2 years ago? Spoiler 2013: 2014: 2015: 2016: OlympicsFan 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 9, 2016 #284 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) vor 3 Stunden schrieb JoshMartini007: I missed the German trials, but here's a list according to SwimSwam of the athletes which made the "long list" Women: Franziska Hentke – 400m IM, 200m Butterfly Sarah Köhler – 400m and 800m Freestyle Leonie Antonia Beck – 800m Freestyle Lisa Graf – 200m Backstroke Alexandra Wenk – 200m IM, 100m Butterfly Dorothea Brandt – 50m Freestyle Men: Jacob Heidtmann – 400m IM Johannes Hintze – 400m IM Florian Wellbrock – 1500m Freestyle Florian Vogel – 200 m and 400m Freestyle Jan-Philip Glania – 100 m and 200m Backstroke Christian Diener – 200m Backstroke Damian Wierling – 50m Freestyle Philip Heintz – 200m IM Marco Koch – 200m Breaststroke Paul Biedermann – 200m Freestyle Christoph Fildebrandt – 200m Freestyle Biedermann and Koch are qualified, they only had to finish top 2. All our mens relays will compete in Rio, i think Deibler (fly) will therefore also be nominated, although Heintz (who qualified at 200 IM) had a better time in prelims than Deibler in the final. For the medley relay we also might nominate Feldwehr (breast). All finalists at 100/200 free still have a chance to qualify. The 4 athletes with the fastest times after the german open (beginning of July) will be nominated. At the moment this would be Hörnikel, Di Carli + Biedermann and Wierling (100 free) and Rapp (200 free) + Biedermann, Vogel and Fildebrandt. I think that no relay on the womens side will be nominated, so we will probably send a very small team on the womens side (Brandt, Köhler, Beck, Wenk, Hentke, Graf). Our womens 800 free relay might have the best chance, top 4 at nationals were Bruhn, Köhler, Kullmann and Schmiedel. My prediction for the final team: Wierling (50/100 free, 400 free relay and maybe 800 free relay) Hornikel (50/100 free, 400 free relay) Biedermann (200 free, 400/800 free relay) Vogel (200/400 free, 800 free relay and maybe 1500 free) Rapp (800 free relay, 400 free) Fildebrandt (800 free relay and maybe 400 free relay) Wellbrock (1500 free) Feldwehr (100 breast and maybe medley relay) Koch (200 breast and maybe medley relay) Diener (200 back) Glania (100/200 back and medley relay) Deibler (100 fly, medley relay and maybe 400 free relay) Heintz (200 IM and maybe 100 fly) Hintze (400 IM and maybe 200 IM) Heidtmann (400 IM and maybe 400/1500 free/800 free relay) Kusch (Maybe 100 fly and 400 free relay) Brandt (50 free) Köhler (400/800 free) Beck (800 free and maybe 400 free) Hentke (200 fly and maybe 100 fly/400 IM) Wenk (100 fly and 200 IM) Graf (200 back and maybe 100 back) Note: Hornikel (50 free, 22.27), Vogel/Heidtmann (1500 free, 15:14.77), Diener (100 back, 54.36), Hintze (200 IM, 2:00.28) and Beck (400 free, 4:09.08) would have to make the A cut if they want to swim those events in Rio. Graf could swim 100 back without making the A cut, because we dont have any swimmer with A cut in this event. All those 22 swimmers have a realistic chance to reach at least 1 final in Rio. If we nominate a 800 free relay on the womens side, then Bruhn, Kullmann and Schmiedel should be added to the team. If we nominate a medley relay, then Roas, Grimberg and Bruhn should be added to the team, so our biggest possible team would have 25 swimmers in my opinion, but i hope for only those 20 swimmers i named before. If we would nominate all swimmers who made the A cut (if at least one german swimmer made the A cut, not more than 2 in every event) or the B cut (if no german swimmer made the A cut, not more than 1 in every event), then we would have the following team: Men: 50 free: Wierling 100 free: Wierling, Hornikel 200 free: Biedermann, Vogel 400 free: Vogel, Rapp 1500 free: Wellbrock, Zellmann 100 back: Glania 200 back: Glania, Diener 100 fly: Heintz, Deibler 200 fly: Kunert (B cut) 200 IM: Heintz 400 IM: Heidtmann, Hintze Women: 50 free: Brandt 100 free: - 200 free: Bruhn, Köhler 400 free: Köhler 800 free: Köhler, Beck 100 back: Graf (B cut) 200 back: Graf, Mensing 100 breast: Grimberg (B cut) 200 breast: Grimberg 100 fly: Wenk, Schmidtke 200 fly: Hentke 200 IM: Wenk, Wolters 400 IM: Hentke, Mrozinski Schmidtke, Wolters, Mrozinski, Mensing, Zellmann, Rapp and Hornikel might miss the olympics, although they made the A cut. Lets see what our head coach will decide, i think Rapp and Hornikel have a good chance to get nominated. Mensing is 100% out. Zellmann, Schmidtke, Wolters and Mrozinski have to hope that our head coach will nominate them, although they didnt swim the necessary times at the german nationals. Edit: Martina van Berkel had a time of 2:08.50 (200 fly) at german nationals, i think she qualified for Rio (she compete for Switzerland). Edited May 9, 2016 by OlympicsFan Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 9, 2016 #285 Share Posted May 9, 2016 vor 24 Minuten schrieb heywoodu: Inhalt unsichtbar machen 2013: 2014: 2015: 2016: Great work, thanks, i gave you a reputation for it! You gave me more than i asked for! 13 year old Isabel Gose (born in 2002) had times of 56.06 (100 free) and 2:01.10 (200 free) at german nationals, she seems to be a great talent, but sadly she competes for the wrong country. I am sure that she would become world class if she would train in the Netherlands, we dont seem to know how to develope freestlye talents on the womens side, although we had Van Almsick and Steffen not too long ago. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,573 Posted May 9, 2016 #286 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said: Great work, thanks, i gave you a reputation for it! You gave me more than i asked for! 13 year old Isabel Gose (born in 2002) had times of 56.06 (100 free) and 2:01.10 (200 free) at german nationals, she seems to be a great talent, but sadly she competes for the wrong country. I am sure that she would become world class if she would train in the Netherlands, we dont seem to know how to develope freestlye talents on the womens side, although we had Van Almsick and Steffen not too long ago. Swimrankings.net is perfect if you want results of European swimmers https://www.swimrankings.net/index.php?&language=de When were these German nationals and where can I find the results? Apparently Swimrankings isn't 100% perfect because for Gose I don't see any sub-58 100m yet If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 9, 2016 #287 Share Posted May 9, 2016 vor 2 Stunden schrieb heywoodu: Swimrankings.net is perfect if you want results of European swimmers https://www.swimrankings.net/index.php?&language=de When were these German nationals and where can I find the results? Apparently Swimrankings isn't 100% perfect because for Gose I don't see any sub-58 100m yet http://www.schwimm-dm.de/wettbewerb/ergebnisse/ 100 freestyle: http://www.titanium-media.de/cms/sportstiming/competition/2016-05-05_233/protocol/pk_wk218_3.pdf 200 freestyle: http://www.titanium-media.de/cms/sportstiming/competition/2016-05-05_233/protocol/pk_wk240_3.pdf heywoodu 1 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 10, 2016 #288 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Article about german relay qualification: https://swimsportnews.de/6140-rio-2016-der-kampf-um-die-staffelplaetze-hat-gerade-erst-begonnen 5 of 6 relays got a quota place in Kazan last year, only womens 400 free relay missed out. Our womens 400 free relay couldve qualified by being among the 4 fastest not already qualified relays this year, but after german nationals our head coach said that they wont get another chance at the european championships to qualify, so they are 100% out. At german nationals our 4 fastests swimmers had to swim certain combined times (1.5s were subtracted for fyling starts) to qualify for Rio and all relays did that, so i think that we will send 5 relays to Rio. Those times equalled the 8th fastest time from prelims at 2015 world championships. All athletes who reached the 100/200 free final can still qualify for the relay, the 4 fastest athletes after the end of the german open (beginning of July) will qualify, no matter how fast they were at the german nationals. The fastest athlete after the end of the german open (beginning of July) in mens/womens 100 back/fly/free/breast will also qualify, but there will be no alternatives if i understood it correctly, so only 4 swimmers for every relay will be nominated. At the moment our relays would look like this: Mens 400 free relay: Wierling, Biedermann, Hornikel, Di Carli Mens 800 free relay: Biedermann, Vogel, Fildebrandt, Rapp Mens medley relay: Glania, Schwingenschlögel, Heintz, Wierling Womens 800 free relay: Bruhn, Köhler, Kullmann, Schmiedel Womens medley relay: Roas, Grimberg, Wenk, Bruhn Required times at german nationals/combined times (1.5s for flying starts subtracted): Mens 400 free relay: 3:15.47/3:13.23 Mens 800 free relay; 7:10.92/7:05.06 Mens medley relay: 3:34.02/3:32.64 Womens 800 free relay: 7:55.08/7:54.05 Womens medley relay: 4:00.43/3:59.60 --------------------------------------------- Womens 400 free relay: 3:38.35/3:39.11 (not qualified) The next 2 months could get really interesting, everyone who didnt finish top 4 at german nationals will try to get a relay spot, so we have to wait 2 more months to know who qualified. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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