copravolley 106 Posted May 23 #71 Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, Josh said: It was bad the day before too. I believe that there are fights, there are clear winners and that is beyond doubt, but in the more even fights the judges simply decide. And if you don't have a challenge, they can do whatever they want. In a close fight, they can give someone 2 yellow cards and this actually distorts it, because the person punished is under pressure and has to attack. Yesterday Bellandi or today Tavano could have won with different refereeing. Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 1,003 Posted May 23 #72 Share Posted May 23 If a judoka loses in R32 with R64 being bye does he still get full points for reaching R32 or only participation points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,394 Posted May 23 #73 Share Posted May 23 4 hours ago, copravolley said: For me, however, it was a disappointment, because 3 fights for bronze and 0 medals. Refereeing is incomprehensible to me today, just like yesterday. They give yellow cards to our players and then they have to chase and take risks. Today, out of nothing, wazari for Korea. Is there any challenge here? If there is no challenge, the referee can do anything: give strange yellow cards to the fight, give a DSQ for who knows what. there's a 2-man jury that looks at the match while it's happening...if a ref does something wrong, they can overturn his decision but it rerely happens, normally they don't like to embarass their collegues (like the VAR officials in football) yeah, Today the decisive scores against Tavano and Pirelli were both absolutely out of the rules, but I've seen a lot worse than that... sometimes you just have to live/survive in a hostile environment not all refs and video-judges are at the same level... and some of them are always biased against some Countries (at the moment, the worse that can happen to the Italians is having Nutsubidze or Babiuc as refs...luckily it looks that we don't have to cope with that infamous Mongolian lady anymore -I'm just forgetting her name right now- she was really an enemy of the Italian people beyond any reason)...that's the only thing that should be checked by IJF asap copravolley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,394 Posted May 23 #74 Share Posted May 23 women's +78kg Gold: Wakaba Tomita Silver: Kayra Ozdemir Bronze: Hilal Ozturk & Kim Ha Yun Full Draw https://www.ijf.org/competition/2787/draw?id_weight=14 Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,394 Posted May 23 #75 Share Posted May 23 men's -100kg Gold: Zelym Kotsoiev Silver: Shady Elnahas Bronze: Dota Arai & Nikoloz Sherazadishvili Full Draw https://www.ijf.org/competition/2787/draw?id_weight=6 Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,394 Posted May 23 #76 Share Posted May 23 men's +100kg Gold: Kim Min Jong Silver: Guram Tushishvili Bronze: Alisher Yusupov & (RUS) Tamerlan Bashaev Full Draw https://www.ijf.org/competition/2787/draw?id_weight=7 Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noorderling29 156 Posted May 24 #77 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2024 at 7:17 AM, Noorderling29 said: Smart. She did not mention that in the interview I read. You should not count her out; she’s not a clear medal favorite, but if she has her day and with a little bit of luck with the draw and how the tournament develops, she could go far. in the early part of her career she really was a whirlwind, ending fights within seconds. But somehow she never managed to win a big medal. It certainly paid off, with Polling winning twice, including the decider, against us. Just saw an interview, where she said that when the draw made clear these two teams would meet, she had a premonition that she would have to fight twice. copravolley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,394 Posted May 24 #78 Share Posted May 24 (edited) for Bronze: vs and vs for Gold: guess who? but it's vs of course! p.s. someone one day would explain me what's the logic behind the Italian officials' decisions in Today's competition? Edited May 24 by phelps Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noorderling29 156 Posted May 24 #79 Share Posted May 24 (edited) In a newspaper interview Polling mentioned how unorganized the Italian Federation is. For instance, it was not long before the Worlds, but she had no information about the travel arrangements. She’s suffering from ADHD, so needs certainty and structure. But strangely enough the total lack of structure works for her. I assume because if you expect nothing, you can never be disappointed. Edited May 24 by Noorderling29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 106 Posted May 24 #80 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Noorderling29 said: In a newspaper interview Polling mentioned how unorganized the Italian Federation is. For instance, it was not long before the Worlds, but she had no information about the travel arrangements. She’s suffering from ADHD, so needs certainty and structure. But strangely enough the total lack of structure works for her. I assume because if you expect nothing, you can never be disappointed. Can you send a link to this interview? I thought the Italian judo federation was working well, as the results show. I don't think it's possible in 2024 with a total amateur regularly win 3-4 medals at the last few World Championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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