Swimming at the Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024

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  On 4/26/2024 at 7:24 AM, tjunior said:

Kós Hubert Hungary

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My apologies!

Kos is not Dutch!

 

Now edited on my original post!

[dullard 721]

  On 4/26/2024 at 7:24 AM, tjunior said:

Kós Hubert Hungary

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Their prediction has wrong country next to his name. Just did the table using countifs in Sheets.

Edited April 26, 2024 by dullard

[dullard 721]

  On 4/26/2024 at 7:29 AM, RussB said:

Not having Daniel Wiffen medalling in either the 800 or the 1500 is a bold prediction in my view given what he did the WR in the 800 (short course).

 

Britain will be aiming for 9-10 medals so a return of 4 would be very disappointing. Mens medley and mixed medley fortunes are drastically improved by the progression of Ollie Morgan and Peaty. The 4x100 free team could challenge the US for gold given the level seen at trials. 

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Think people were overrating the strength of Hackett's world record because of how long it lasted but he wasn't tapered when he set it and the 800 wasn't included in Worlds until recently.

[dantm 32]

  On 4/26/2024 at 7:29 AM, RussB said:

Not having Daniel Wiffen medalling in either the 800 or the 1500 is a bold prediction in my view given what he did the WR in the 800 (short course).

 

Britain will be aiming for 9-10 medals so a return of 4 would be very disappointing. Mens medley and mixed medley fortunes are drastically improved by the progression of Ollie Morgan and Peaty. The 4x100 free team could challenge the US for gold given the level seen at trials. 

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I think it would be bold to put Wiffen ahead of Hafanoui ,Short or Finke.

They are up 3 seconds faster in the 800m and generally don't bother with Short course.

Wiffen's time to win the Worlds this year would not have earned a medal in 2023 when everyone else swam.

 

Peaty could be the deal breaker for the mens medley relay,but China look way too strong.

I cant see Britain medaling in the mixed relay with of without Peaty

 

As for Men's 4x100m Free,the USA are looking real good and I would expect 3-4 swimmers in low 47s by trials including Dressel,who will be even faster by Paris.

The USA should win it easily.

 

 

 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 7:53 AM, dantm said:

I think it would be bold to put Wiffen ahead of Hafanoui ,Short or Finke.

They are up 3 seconds faster in the 800m and generally don't bother with Short course.

Wiffen's time to win the Worlds this year would not have earned a medal in 2023 when everyone else swam.

 

Peaty could be the deal breaker for the mens medley relay,but China look way too strong.

I cant see Britain medaling in the mixed relay with of without Peaty

 

As for Men's 4x100m Free,the USA are looking real good and I would expect 3-4 swimmers in low 47s by trials including Dressel,who will be even faster by Paris.

The USA should win it easily.

 

 

 

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I think very foolish to write off Wiffen but just my personal view he could be one of the stars of the pool in Paris.

 

as for the mixed medley it hinges on the McInnes fly leg on whether GBR can sneak a medal, but it will be challenging.

 

on the 4x100m free, US will be favs (especially if Dressel gets back to peak form - which I don’t think is a given). However GBR had 3 47s and a 48 flat 4th at trials so lots of scope to push those times down to a very competitive relay squad in Paris.

[dantm 32]

  On 4/26/2024 at 8:00 AM, RussB said:

I think very foolish to write off Wiffen but just my personal view he could be one of the stars of the pool in Paris.

 

as for the mixed medley it hinges on the McInnes fly leg on whether GBR can sneak a medal, but it will be challenging.

 

on the 4x100m free, US will be favs (especially if Dressel gets back to peak form - which I don’t think is a given). However GBR had 3 47s and a 48 flat 4th at trials so lots of scope to push those times down to a very competitive relay squad in Paris.

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Im not writing anyone off,as swimmers that are not on this list will win Olympic Gold Medals

That could be Wiffan

 

As for the 4 x 100m Relay,as an Australian,we also have 3 x47s  and a  48.0 (Chalmers,Southam,Cartwright and Taylor) also noting that Chalmers is an absolute weapon on anchor,BUT,USA will have too much depth even without Dressel (Alexy especially)

 

 

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  On 4/25/2024 at 4:54 AM, dantm said:

Predicciones de natación en París

 

M/W EVENTO MEDALLA NOMBRE PAÍS
HOMBRES 100m espalda 1.Oro Jiayu Xu China
HOMBRES 100m espalda 2.Plata Thomas Ceccon Italia
HOMBRES 100m espalda 3.Bronce Hunter Armstrong EE.UU.
HOMBRES 100m braza 1.Oro Hayang Qin China
HOMBRES 100m braza 2.Plata Adam Peaty Gran Bretaña
HOMBRE 100 m braza 3. Bronce Nicolo Martinelli Italia
HOMBRE 100 m mariposa 1. Oro Dare Rose EE. UU.
HOMBRE 100 m mariposa 2. Plata Josh Liendo Canadá
HOMBRE 100 m mariposa 3. Bronce Noe Ponti Suiza
HOMBRE 100 m estilo libre 1. Oro Zhanie Pan China
HOMBRE 100 m Estilo libre 2.Plata David Popovici Rumania
HOMBRES 100m Estilo libre 3.Bronce Kyle Chalmers Australia
HOMBRES 1500m Estilo libre 1.Oro Ahmed Hafnaoui Túnez
HOMBRES 1500m Estilo libre 2.Plata Bobby Finke EE.UU.
HOMBRES 1500m Estilo libre 3.Bronce Samuel Short Australia
HOMBRES 200m espalda 1.Oro Hubert Kos Hungría
HOMBRE 200 m espalda 2. Plata Roman Nityukov Suiza
HOMBRE 200 m espalda 3. Bronce Ryan Murphy EE. UU.
HOMBRE 200 m braza 1. Oro Hayang Qin China
HOMBRE 200 m braza 2. Plata Zac Stubblety-Cook Australia
HOMBRE 200 m braza 3. Bronce Leon Marchand Francia
HOMBRE 200 m mariposa 1.Oro Leon Marchand Francia
HOMBRE 200 m mariposa 2.Plata Thomas Heilman EE. UU.
HOMBRE 200 m mariposa 3.Bronce Kristof Milak Hungría
HOMBRE 200 m estilo libre 1.Oro Matt Richards Gran Bretaña
HOMBRE 200 m estilo libre 2.Plata Zhanie Pan China
HOMBRE 200 m estilo libre 3. Bronce Maximillian Giulliani Australia
HOMBRE 200 m IM 1.Oro Leon Marchand Francia
HOMBRE 200 m IM 2.Plata Shaine Casas EE.UU.
HOMBRE 200 m IM 3.Bronce Shun Wang China
HOMBRE 400 m estilo libre 1.Oro Samuel Short Australia
HOMBRE 400 m estilo libre 2.Plata Ahmed Hafnaoui Túnez
HOMBRE 400 m estilo libre 3. Bronce Elijah Winnington Australia
HOMBRES 400 m IM 1. Oro Leon Marchand Francia
HOMBRES 400 m IM 2. Plata Carson Foster EE. UU.
HOMBRES 400 m IM 3. Bronce Tomoru Honda Japón
HOMBRES 4x100 m estilo libre 1. Oro EE. UU. Hombres EE. UU.
HOMBRES 4x100 m estilo libre 2. Plata Australia Hombres Australia
HOMBRES 4x100m Estilo libre 3.Bronce Gran Bretaña Hombres Gran Bretaña
HOMBRES 4x100m Combinado 1.Oro China Hombres China
HOMBRES 4x100m combinado 2.Plata EE.UU. Hombres EE.UU.
HOMBRES 4x100m combinado 3.Bronce Australia Hombres Australia
HOMBRES 4x200m estilo libre 1.Oro Gran Bretaña Hombres Gran Bretaña
HOMBRES 4x200m estilo libre 2.Plata EE.UU. Hombres EE.UU.
HOMBRES 4x200m estilo libre 3.Bronce Australia Hombres Australia
HOMBRES 50m estilo libre 1.Oro Cameron McEvoy Australia
HOMBRE 50m estilo libre 2.Plata Jack Alexy EE.UU.
HOMBRE 50m estilo libre 3.Bronce Florent Manadou Francia
HOMBRE 800m estilo libre 1.Oro Ahmed Hafnaoui Túnez
HOMBRE 800m estilo libre 2.Plata Samuel Short Australia
HOMBRE 800m estilo libre 3.Bronce Bobby Finke EE.UU.
MIXTO 4x100m combinado 1.Oro China Mixto China
MIXTO 4x100m combinado 2.Plata Australia Mixto Australia
MIXTO 4x100m combinado 3.Bronce EE.UU. Mixto EE.UU.
MUJER 100m espalda 1.Oro Kaylee McKeown Australia
MUJER 100m espalda 2.Plata Regan Smith EE.UU.
MUJER 100m espalda 3 .Bronce Clare Curzan EE. UU.
MUJER 100 m braza 1.Oro Qiantin Tang China
MUJER 100 m braza 2.Plata Ruta Melutyte Lituania
MUJER 100 m braza 3.Bronce Lily King EE. UU.
MUJER 100 m mariposa 1.Oro Torri Huske EE. UU.
MUJER 100 m mariposa 2.Plata Zhang Yufei China
MUJER 100 m Mariposa 3. Bronce Maggie McNeal Canadá
MUJER 100 m Estilo libre 1. Oro Mollie O'Callahan Australia
MUJER 100 m Estilo libre 2. Plata Siobon Haughey Hong Kong
MUJER 100 m Estilo libre 3. Bronce Kate Douglas EE. UU.
MUJER 1500 m Estilo libre 1. Oro Katie Ledecky EE. UU.
MUJER 1500 m Estilo libre 2. Plata Katie Grimes EE. UU.
MUJER 1500 m Estilo libre 3. Bronce Lani Pallister Australia
MUJER 200 m espalda 1. Oro Kaylee McKeown Australia
MUJER 200 m espalda 2. Plata Clare Curzan EE. UU.
MUJER 200 m espalda 3. Bronce Regan Smith EE. UU.
MUJER 200 m braza 1. Oro Tatiana Shuemaker Sudáfrica
MUJER 200 m braza 2. Plata Tes Schouten Países Bajos
MUJER 200 m braza 3. Bronce Kate Douglas EE. UU.
MUJER 200 m mariposa 1. Oro Zhang Yufei China
MUJER 200 m mariposa 2. Plata Summer McIntosh Canadá
MUJER 200 m mariposa 3. Bronce Elizabeth Dekkers Australia
MUJER 200 m Estilo libre 1.Oro Mollie O'Callahan Australia
MUJER 200 m estilo libre 2. Plata Ariane Titmus Australia
MUJER 200 m estilo libre 3. Bronce Siobon Haughey Hong Kong
MUJER 200 m IM 1. Oro Summer McIntosh Canadá
MUJER 200 m IM 2. Plata Kaylee McKeown Australia
MUJER 200 m IM 3. Bronce Kate Douglass EE. UU.
MUJER 400 m estilo libre 1 .Oro Ariane Titmus Australia
MUJERES 400m Estilo libre 2.Plata Summer McIntosh Canadá
MUJERES 400m Estilo libre 3.Bronce Li Binjie China
MUJERES 400m IM 1.Oro Summer McIntosh Canadá
MUJERES 400m IM 2.Plata Katie Grimes EE.UU.
MUJERES 400m IM 3.Bronce Jenna Forrester Australia
MUJERES 4x100m Estilo libre 1.Oro Australia Mujeres Australia
MUJERES 4x100m Estilo libre 2.Plata EE.UU. Mujeres EE.UU.
MUJERES 4x100m Estilo libre 3.Bronce China Mujeres China
4x100m combinado MUJERES 1.Oro EE.UU. Mujeres EE.UU.
MUJERES 4x100m combinado 2.Plata Australia Mujeres Australia
4x100m combinado MUJERES 3. Bronce Canadá Mujeres Canadá
MUJERES 4x200m Estilo libre 1.Oro Australia Mujeres Australia
MUJERES 4x200m Estilo libre 2.Plata China Mujeres China
MUJERES 4x200m Estilo libre 3.Bronce EE.UU. Mujeres EE.UU.
MUJERES 50m Estilo libre 1.Oro Sarah Sjostrum Suecia
MUJERES 50m Estilo libre 2.Plata Emma McKeon Australia
MUJERES 50 m estilo libre 3. Bronce Cate Campbell Australia
MUJER 800 m estilo libre 1. Oro Katie Ledecky EE. UU.
MUJER 800 m estilo libre 2. Plata Ariane Titmus Australia
MUJER 800 m estilo libre 3. Bronce Li Binjie China
 

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I don't think Zhang Yu Fei will win the 200 butterfly again.

 

And Regan will surely be on that podium.

 

I also think Steenbergen will be a medalist in the 100 meter freestyle.

 

I don't think Douglass will be bested by two swimmers in the 200 meter dash, especially McKeown. I don't see Curzan over Smith in the 200 backstroke.

 

I think Wasick and Walsh have a better chance of medals than Campbell, it's just that if Douglass doesn't enter, then she would be silver.

 

I see more Schouten or Schoenmaker in the 100 breaststroke than King

Edited April 26, 2024 by Sindo

[Epic Failure 355]

The US didn't have too much strength last summer in Fukuoka.

 

Adding in the GBR heat swim (adjusting it slightly slower for a legal takeover), the US were only capable of producing the 4th fastest time of the meet, behind Aus, Italy and GBR.

 

Obviously with their general strength, having them as favourites is perfectly reasonable and even more so if Dressel is close to form. But if someone had one of those others as favourite, I don't think it would be an unreasonable shout. And that's not even considering the Chinese.

Edited April 26, 2024 by Epic Failure

[dullard 721]

  On 4/26/2024 at 8:36 AM, Epic Failure said:

The US didn't have too much strength last summer in Budapest.

 

Adding in the GBR heat swim (adjusting it slightly slower for a legal takeover), the US were only capable of producing the 4th fastest time of the meet, behind Aus, Italy and GBR.

 

Obviously with their general strength, having them as favourites is perfectly reasonable and even more so if Dressel is close to form. But if someone had one of those others as favourite, I don't think it would be an unreasonable shout. And that's not even considering the Chinese.

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I know some people here get shitty when you talk about China having strong prospects to medal but they could feasibly have a 46 lead off, a 46 anchor plus a couple of 47 mid splits. That's some serious firepower. 

[Epic Failure 355]

  On 4/26/2024 at 9:03 AM, dullard said:

I know some people here get shitty when you talk about China having strong prospects to medal but they could feasibly have a 46 lead off, a 46 anchor plus a couple of 47 mid splits. That's some serious firepower. 

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Yeah, my bigger 'concern' with China is whether they perform on the very highest stage. They've always put fast times down in domestic meets but not always collectively performed on the international stage (they've always had a couple of stars who've performed, but not necessarily the team as a whole).

 

If they can solve that problem on a consistent basis, they are a force to be reckoned with.