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Fencing Pan-American Championships 2016

 

Men's Individual Epee

 

Gold: :CUB Yunior Reytor Venet

 

Silver: :USA Jason Pryor

 

Bronze: :CAN Maxime Brinck-Croteau &  :CUB Reynier Henriquez Ortiz

 

Final

 

:CUB Yunior Reytor Venet 15 - 14 :USA Jason Pryor

 

 

Women's Individual Sabre

 

Gold: :USA Ibtihaj Muhammad

 

Silver: :USA Mariel Zagunis

 

Bronze: :ARG Maria Belen Perez Maurice &  :MEX Paola Pliego

 

Final

 

:USA Ibtihaj Muhammad  Walkover  :USA Mariel Zagunis

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Fencing European Championships 2016

 

Women's Team Sabre Semifinals

 

:RUS Russia vs :POL Poland

:FRA France vs :UKR Ukraine

 

and this simply means the end of any hope for Italy to get a favourable draw at the Olympics...

therefore, no chances of getting at least a semifinal place in this discipline for us...

 

 

Men's Team Foil Semifinals

 

:ITA Italy vs :GBR Great Britain

:RUS Russia vs :FRA France

 

meanwhile our defending champions still have all the chances of getting one of the top 2/3 seeds in Rio, which means they will have at least a not so complicated quarterfinal round assault in August...
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Fencing European Championships 2016

 

Women's Team Sabre Semifinals

 

:RUS Russia 45 - 35 :POL Poland

:FRA France 45 - 40 :UKR Ukraine

 

Women's Team Sabre Bronze Final

 

:UKR Ukraine vs :POL Poland

 

Women's Team Sabre Gold Final

 

:RUS Russia vs :FRA France

 

 

Men's Team Foil Semifinals

 

:ITA Italy 44 - 28 :GBR Great Britain

:RUS Russia 45 - 34 :FRA France

 

Men's Team Foil Bronze Final

 

:FRA France vs :GBR Great Britain

 

Men's Team Foil Gold Final

 

:ITA Italy vs :RUS Russia

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and so...according to my quick (very quick, therefore with high chance of mistake) calculations, considering the best possible result in the remaining Continental Championships for the teams that yet have to complete them, the Olympic seedings in the Men's Team Foil and in the Women's Team Sabre should be as follows:

 

Men's Team Foil

 

#1 :ITA Italy (384 points)

#2 :USA United States (they can't score more than 344 points, provided they're going to win the Pan-Am Champs...and they would get 332 points if they end up in 2nd place in Panama - I just can't think of them not making at least the final)

#3 :RUS Russia (330 points)

#4 :FRA France (304 points)

#5 :CHN China (266 points, they have already ended their pre-Games campaign)

#6 :GBR Great Britain (231 points)

#7 :EGY Egypt (206 points, same situation as China)

#8 :BRA Brazil (they can't score more than 188 points in any case)

 

therefore, the table draw of the Olympic tournament should look like this:

 

Quarterfinals:

#1 Italy vs #8 Brazil

#4 France vs #5 China

#3 Russia vs #6 Great Britain

#2 USA vs #7 Egypt

 

Semifinals:

ITA/BRA vs FRA/CHN

RUS/GBR vs USA/EGY

 

 

in the Women's Team Sabre, meanwhile, the situation is already established and no changes will happen to this ranking (obviously for what concerns the final positions...there will be of course some scoring adjustments)...

 

#1 :RUS Russia (424 points)

#2 :UKR Ukraine (364 points)

#3 :FRA France (308 points)

#4 :USA United States (they can't score more than 274 points and they will go down to 262 if they get only a 2nd place at the Pan-Am Champs...once again, I can't even imagine them finishing lower than that...and in any case even switching position with Poland would mean nothing for both of them)

#5 :POL Poland (248 points)

#6 :ITA Italy (236 points)

#7 :KOR South Korea (230 points, they have already ended their pre-Games campaign)

#8 :MEX Mexico (they can't score more than 189 points in any case)

 

so, also in this case the table draw of the Olympic tournament should look like this:

 

Quarterfinals:

#1 Russia vs #8 Mexico

#4 USA vs #5 Poland

#3 France vs #6 Italy

#2 Ukraine vs #7 South Korea

 

Semifinals:

RUS/MEX vs USA/POL

FRA/ITA vs UKR/KOR

 

post updated after the end of today's finals at the European Championships

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Fencing European Championships 2016

 

Women's Team Sabre

 

Gold: :RUS Russia

 

Silver: :FRA France

 

Bronze: :UKR Ukraine

 

Women's Team Sabre Bronze Final

 

:UKR Ukraine 45 - 42 :POL Poland

 

Women's Team Sabre Gold Final

 

:RUS Russia 45 - 39 :FRA France

 

 

Men's Team Foil

 

Gold: :RUS Russia

 

Silver: :ITA Italy

 

Bronze: :GBR Great Britain

 

Men's Team Foil Bronze Final

 

:FRA France 28 - 45 :GBR Great Britain

 

Men's Team Foil Gold Final

 

:ITA Italy 42 - 45 :RUS Russia

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Fencing European Championships 2016

 

Provisional Medal Table after Day 4

 

:RUS Russia,  4 - 1 - 3

:FRA France,  1 - 3 - 2

:ITA Italy,  1 - 1 - 1

:ROU Romania,  1 - 1 - 0

:GER Germany,  1 - 0 - 2

:HUN Hungary,  0 - 1 - 1

:SUI Switzerland,  0 - 1 - 0

:UKR Ukraine ,  0 - 0 - 3

:GBR Great Britain, 0 - 0 - 1

:POL Poland,  0 - 0 - 1

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I'm glad that in the Pan American champions small Caribbean nations are making their debut, like :ANT  :BIZ  and :DMA  to name a few... so far, regular, expected results for Mexican competitors; let's see if they can add some medals in team competition.

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Fencing Pan-American Championships 2016

 

Men's Individual Sabre

 

Gold: :BRA Renzo Agresta

 

Silver: :USA Andrew Mackiewicz

 

Bronze: :USA Eli Dershwitz &  :VEN Josè Quintero

 

Final

 

:BRA Renzo Agresta 15 - 5 :USA Andrew Mackiewicz

 

 

Women's Individual Foil

 

Gold: :USA Lee Kiefer

 

Silver: :USA Nicole Ross

 

Bronze: :CAN Alanna Goldie &  :CAN Kalleigh Ryan

 

Final

 

:USA Lee Kiefer 15 - 7 :USA Nicole Ross

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Fencing European Championships 2016

 

Women's Team Foil Semifinals

 

:ITA Italy 45 - 29 :HUN Hungary

:FRA France 30 - 45 :RUS Russia

 

Bronze Medal Final

 

:HUN Hungary 30 - 45 :FRA France

 

Gold Medal Final

 

:ITA Italy 38 - 45 :RUS Russia

 

 

Men's Team Epee Semifinals

 

:FRA France 45 - 32 :SUI Switzerland

:ITA Italy 29 - 28 :UKR Ukraine

 

Bronze Medal Final

 

:SUI  Switzerland 31 - 45 :UKR Ukraine

 

Gold Medal Final

 

:FRA  France 45 - 40 :ITA Italy

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Fencing European Championships 2016

 

Provisional Medal Table after Day 5

 

:RUS Russia,  5 - 1 - 3

:FRA France,  2 - 3 - 3

:ITA Italy,  1 - 3 - 1

:ROU Romania,  1 - 1 - 0

:GER Germany,  1 - 0 - 2

:HUN Hungary,  0 - 1 - 1

:SUI Switzerland,  0 - 1 - 0

:UKR Ukraine ,  0 - 0 - 4

:GBR Great Britain, 0 - 0 - 1

:POL Poland,  0 - 0 - 1

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