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In the women's team competition Japan lost early to Austria, Canada to Ukraine, USA to Korea. Korea and Ukraine (0 fencers qualified to Paris between the two of them) in semifinal.

 

In men's competition, #1 Japan knocked out by #16 Singapore, only Italy of the top 4 reaching the semifinal (and by barely surviving to Ukraine and Egypt). 

 

Goes to show how small a field of 8 (or 7+1 in the women's) teams is.

 

 

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Ukraine just won our first ever WC medal in women's team foil, it's insane :clap:

 

The average age of this team is 21.5 years, which means that they could be threat for next Olympic cycle, such a talented girls

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2 hours ago, Faramir said:

In the women's team competition Japan lost early to Austria, Canada to Ukraine, USA to Korea. Korea and Ukraine (0 fencers qualified to Paris between the two of them) in semifinal.

 

In men's competition, #1 Japan knocked out by #16 Singapore, only Italy of the top 4 reaching the semifinal (and by barely surviving to Ukraine and Egypt). 

 

Goes to show how small a field of 8 (or 7+1 in the women's) teams is.

 

 

we have to say that many teams are not competing with their best players and/or are not so focused on this final stint of the world cup season

 

some of them have no motivation for this year anymore, others are already focusing their preparation for the Olympics (and almost every team doesn't have to care about the seeding, because they can't improve or lose places in a significant way)

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Women’s Team Foil (:HKG Hong Kong)

 

Gold: :ITA Italy

Silver: :FRA France

Bronze: :UKR Ukraine

 

Semifinals

France b. South Korea 43-19

Italy b. Ukraine 45-32

 

Bronze Medal Match

Ukraine b. South Korea 34-31

 

Gold Medal Match

Italy b. France 45-30

 

Full Ranking & Results

https://fie.org/competitions/2024/201?tab=results

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Men’s Team Foil (:HKG Hong Kong)

 

Gold: :HKG Hong Kong

Silver: :ITA Italy

Bronze: :KOR Ukraine

 

Semifinals

Hong Kong b. South Korea 45-31

Italy b. China 45-37

 

Bronze Medal Match

South Korea b. China 45-37

 

Gold Medal Match

Hong Kong b. Italy 45-41

 

Full Ranking & Results

https://fie.org/competitions/2024/571?tab=results

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Men’s Team Foil (:HKG Hong Kong)

 

Gold: :HKG Hong Kong

Silver: :ITA Italy

Bronze: :KOR Ukraine

 

Semifinals

Hong Kong b. South Korea 45-31

Italy b. China 45-37

 

Bronze Medal Match

South Korea b. China 45-37

 

Gold Medal Match

Hong Kong b. Italy 45-41

 

Full Ranking & Results

https://www.fencingtimelive.com/events/results/8532B9F5676F451F812F0808C00F1C93

big time robbery, this one! :hairpull:

 

one of the worst and more biased refereeing I've seen for a long, long time :facepalm:

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Epee Grand Prix (:COL Cali)

 

women's quarterfinals

 

:ITA Federica Isola vs :EST Nelli Differt

:CHN Chen Chen vs :FRA Auriane Mallo-Breton

:BRA Nathalie Moellhausen vs :EST Erika Kirpu

:ITA Giulia Rizzi vs :ARG Isabel Di Tella

 

 

now...try and let Rizzi out of the Olympic team, if you can :bones:

 

on the other hand, Fiamingo and Isola Today were the best among the other Italians, which might keep the Olympic selection wide open (imho they shouldn't be named in the Olympic team, but it won't be easy to leave Fiamingo out, despite this year's results suggest that)

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in the meantime, in the men's event Davide Di Veroli lost again in the early rounds (today it was the last 32, against :POR Frazao) :facepalm:

 

this is really, really worrying in perspective both for the individual competition and, above all, for the team event, where we must absolutely shut the French up on their Home soil next Summer :p :bones:

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1 hour ago, phelps said:

Epee Grand Prix (:COL Cali)

 

women's quarterfinals

 

:ITA Federica Isola vs :EST Nelli Differt

:CHN Chen Chen vs :FRA Auriane Mallo-Breton

:BRA Nathalie Moellhausen vs :EST Erika Kirpu

:ITA Giulia Rizzi vs :ARG Isabel Di Tella

 

 

now...try and let Rizzi out of the Olympic team, if you can :bones:

 

on the other hand, Fiamingo and Isola Today were the best among the other Italians, which might keep the Olympic selection wide open (imho they shouldn't be named in the Olympic team, but it won't be easy to leave Fiamingo out, despite this year's results suggest that)

Isola and Rizzi are already in the semi-finals :) Looking at the form this year alone, Navarria is probably doing the worst. Fiamingo definitely shouldn't fight in the last match in team tournaments.

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