[OFF TOPIC] Coronavirus Pandemic

[heywoodu 15,141]

12 minutes ago, dcro said:

Last month I visited Venice and except for the EU Covid Certificate, you also needed to fill out EUdplf (only pro forma, nobody actually asked us about it at any point).

 

According to the Reopen Europa app, it looks like they are accepting certificates 'equivalent' to the EU Covid Certificate, which likely means that a proof of vaccine is enough too.

 

And if not, 5-day self-isolation is warranted.

A proof of vaccination being enough would be good, she got into the Netherlands with that last week, so it should be just as acceptable in another country.

 

She'd be able to get the EU certificate with a bit more time, but one needs a European social security number to do so and that will arrive only in a week or two (we registered at city hall today, so it's in the process of being 'made').

 

It does seem that the main thing is the fact that she left Brazil on 2 November. Brazil is on 'List E' and there's a thing about having been in a List E country in the 14 days prior to entering Italy making things potentially problematic.

[Henry_Leon 1,397]

39 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

It does seem that the main thing is the fact that she left Brazil on 2 November. Brazil is on 'List E' and there's a thing about having been in a List E country in the 14 days prior to entering Italy making things potentially problematic.

Yes, this is the case and ..... the problem.

 

This is the Fulfilments for entry into Italy for countries  List E  (updated November 4th)

 

However need:

• molecular or antigenic swab carried out within 72 hours prior to entry into Italy
• self-isolation at the address indicated on the Passenger Locator Form for 10 days

 

 

PS: We have many rules, they can change every 7-10 days and it is difficult for us to understand them too.....

[heywoodu 15,141]

17 hours ago, Henry_Leon said:

Yes, this is the case and ..... the problem.

 

This is the Fulfilments for entry into Italy for countries  List E  (updated November 4th)

 

However need:

• molecular or antigenic swab carried out within 72 hours prior to entry into Italy
• self-isolation at the address indicated on the Passenger Locator Form for 10 days

 

 

PS: We have many rules, they can change every 7-10 days and it is difficult for us to understand them too.....

Thanks. I did see there is an exception for athletes, the federation is working on an invitation from the event they're planning to compete it. Also, the federation is convinced that the quarantine thing simply means they can not leave Livigno (instead of their apartment), even when presented with the actual link to the Italian website saying "address"...they might be a bit too optimistic and refusing to look closely at the rules, but what else is new...

[LuizGuilherme 267]

My father is fully vaccinated and is going to Portugal in 2 weeks. The plane will make a stopover in the Netherlands before continuing its journey, do you think he is going to have problems?

 

He will take the test 2 days before the trip as it is the rule to enter Portugal, the problem is this stopover.

[heywoodu 15,141]

1 hour ago, LuizGuilherme said:

My father is fully vaccinated and is going to Portugal in 2 weeks. The plane will make a stopover in the Netherlands before continuing its journey, do you think he is going to have problems?

 

He will take the test 2 days before the trip as it is the rule to enter Portugal, the problem is this stopover.

This link should clear that up:

https://www.government.nl/topics/c/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/mandatory-negative-test-results-and-declaration/rules-when-changing-planes

 

Specifically this part:

 

 

Just in case he would suddenly need a test for his stopover (which I doubt because of the information above), here you can see that one of the requirements is that it's not older than 48 hours before departure from, in this case, Brazil:

https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/mandatory-negative-test-results-and-declaration/information-on-the-test-result

 

And considering he is going to take a test anyway, I would assume the stopover won't be a problem (mainly because a test is not required, the way I read it, but also because if it is, he will have what I assume is a valid one).

[Henry_Leon 1,397]

6 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Thanks. I did see there is an exception for athletes, the federation is working on an invitation from the event they're planning to compete it. Also, the federation is convinced that the quarantine thing simply means they can not leave Livigno (instead of their apartment), even when presented with the actual link to the Italian website saying "address"...they might be a bit too optimistic and refusing to look closely at the rules, but what else is new...

Status of "athletes" is the best solution for reduce the 10 days of self-isolation; maybe the local authorities will can request another swab after 3 days here.

[rybak 3,217]

This day two years ago first case was confirmed in Wuhan. We fight with this shit already two years and still there is no hope that it will end anytime soon...

 

Today in  was over 24k cases and more than 400 deaths, yet two months ago there was less than 300 cases daily with almost no deaths... In addition our government didn't bring back any restrictions due to fear that people will not follow them and will be mad for them 

[LuizGuilherme 267]

41 minutes ago, rybak said:

This day two years ago first case was confirmed in Wuhan. We fight with this shit already two years and still there is no hope that it will end anytime soon...

 

Today in  was over 24k cases and more than 400 deaths, yet two months ago there was less than 300 cases daily with almost no deaths... In addition our government didn't bring back any restrictions due to fear that people will not follow them and will be mad for them 

Are people vaccinating in Poland?

[rybak 3,217]

56 minutes ago, LuizGuilherme said:

Are people vaccinating in Poland?

Yes, but only 53% of people are vaccinated, the rest is very strong group of antivaxxers...

 

Btw. For mid-December I have scheduled third dose of vaccine.

[heywoodu 15,141]

Austria is taking the next - possibly slightly questionable - step, by making vaccinations obligated from February on. One wonders what will happen to those who refuse, will they be thrown in prison and/or be hunted down with a vaccine-shooting rifle or something?