Totallympics 58 Posted October 18, 2019 #1 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Men's Ski Jumping FIS Four Hills Tournament 2019 - 2020 Multi-Stage Event - 28 December 2019 - 6 January 2020 Official Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,733 Posted December 28, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 28, 2019 4 Hills Tournament Stage 1 Oberstdorf KO Round Starting Order Q Athlete Pairing Athlete Q 26 Evgeniy KLIMOV 1 Timi ZAJC 25 27 Jan HOERL 2 Robin PEDERSEN 24 28 Viktor POLASEK 3 Maciej KOT 23 29 Mackenzie BOYD-CLOWES 4 Kamil STOCH 22 30 Stefan HULA 5 Jakub WOLNY 21 31 Robert JOHANSSON 6 Daiki ITO 20 32 Naoki NAKAMURA 7 Johann Andre FORFANG 19 33 Luca ROTH 8 Antti AALTO 18 34 Moritz BAER 9 Martin HAMANN 17 35 Anze LANISEK 10 Yukiya SATO 16 36 Sergey TKACHENKO 11 Simon AMMANN 15 37 Dmitriy VASSILIEV 12 Pius PACHKE 14 38 Michael HAYBOECK 13 Dawid KUBACKI 13 39 Kevin BICKNER 14 Roman KOUDELKA 12 40 Killian PEIER 15 Constantin SCHMID 11 41 Peter PREVC 16 Philipp ASCHENWALD 10 42 Anders HAARE 17 Piotr ZYLA 9 43 Vladimir ZOGRAFSKI 18 Domen PREVC 8 44 Dominik PETER 19 Marius LINDVIK 7 45 Philipp RAIMUND 20 Karl GEIGER 6 46 Daniel Andre TANDE 21 Markus EISENBICHLER 5 47 Sondre RINGEN 22 Ryoyu KOBAYASHI 4 48 Tilen BARTOL 23 Stephan LEYHE 3 49 Taku TAKEUCHI 24 Junshiro KOBAYASHI 2 50 Gregor SCHLIERENZAUER 25 Stefan KRAFT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,282 Posted December 29, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 29, 2019 The knockout system is much more interesting, than the normal one. I don't know why, they still don't use it in more events. At least in the so-called "mini tours" or the Raw Air. And the normal system can be used for the individual WC starts, which are not affiliated with a bigger classification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 3,009 Posted December 29, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Think they want to keep it as exclusive for the Four Hills. I suppose they want each of the “special” events lto have their own individual identity - so for Raw Air it is that Every Jump Counts etc. Otherwise it would just be the same thing 27 times. Maybe Evel Kneivel-style jumping over Monster Trucks for the Las Vegas World Cup? Just trying to come up with ideas here! Edited December 29, 2019 by Grassmarket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,282 Posted December 29, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: Think they want to keep it as exclusive for the Four Hills. I suppose they want each of the “special” events lto have their own individual identity - so for Raw Air it is that Every Jump Counts etc. Otherwise it would just be the same thing 27 times. Maybe Evel Kneivel-style jumping over Monster Trucks for the Las Vegas World Cup? Just trying to come up with ideas here! But don't we have the same thing 27 times in the current way. I'm suggesting to make it at least 17-10. I'm all in, in having more variety in the starts. Why don't make a full knockout start with a tennis bracket? The qualifications are mostly useless, so why not use them to make a top 32 bracket in some events and have a knockout competition over 2 days. Have 4 such weekends in a season, one in each month and have a small globe for the jumper with the most points from the 4 competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,209 Posted December 29, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 29, 2019 So... How many athletes have won all four hills in one calendar year? Kobayashi just completed that now. hckošice 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,733 Posted December 29, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, dcro said: So... How many athletes have won all four hills in one calendar year? Kobayashi just completed that now. Sven Hannawald 2002 dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,881 Posted December 30, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Fifth consecutive Four Hills competition win for Kobayashi If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,737 Posted December 30, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Fifth consecutive Four Hills competition win for Kobayashi Maybe he just confirmed the statistics All athletesletes that won the Four Hills with a Grand Slam have a strikes of 5 wins in a row (Hannawald in 2001/2002, Stoch in 2017/2018 and now Kobayashi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,881 Posted December 30, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Federer91 said: The knockout system is much more interesting, than the normal one. I don't know why, they still don't use it in more events. At least in the so-called "mini tours" or the Raw Air. And the normal system can be used for the individual WC starts, which are not affiliated with a bigger classification. Because it's cool if something like the Four Hills has it's own unique thing and it gets a whole lot less special when more and more events use it, especially all those rip-offs like RAW Air. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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