European Games 2023 Road to Paris 2024

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Rio 2016 Olympic Champion Carolina Marin with a 2-1 (21-10, 19-21, 21-13) win over Jenjira Stadelmann. Great effort by the Swiss athlete, the odds were clearly stacked up against her. 

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SLOVAKIA AT THE EUROPEAN GAMES 2023

 

Daily Recap

 

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DAY 5

Monday, June 26th, 2023

 

 

 

Archery

 

Spoiler

 

15.15 M Individual Recurve - 1/32 Elimination Round

 

Miroslav Duchoň vs Lovro Cerny (CRO)

6:2

Qualified for the 1/16 Elimination Round

 

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15.45 M Individual Recurve - 1/16 Elimination Round

 

Miroslav Duchoň vs Ivan Kozhokar (UKR)

6:0

Qualified for the 1/8 Elimination Round

 

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Badminton

 

Spoiler

 

13.00 (Court 3)

Mixed Doubles - Preliminary Group A

 

Milan Dratva/Katarína Vargová vs Thom Gicquel/Delphine Delrue (FRA)

0:2

(-14, -11,)

 

Group A Provisional Standing:

 

1. Thom Gicquel/Delphine Delrue           FRA  1/0

2. Joshua Magee/Moya Ryan                       IRL 1/0

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3. Gianmarco Bailetti/Martina Corsini      ITA  0/1

4. Milan Dratva/Katarína Vargová        SVK  0/1

 

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18.00 (Court 3)

M Singles - Preliminary Group D

 

Milan Dratva vs Nhat Nguyen (IRL)

0:2

(-21, -19)

 

Group D Provisional Standing:

 

1. Nhat Nguyen            IRL  1/0

2. Mark Caljouw           NED  1/0

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3. Johnnie Torjussen    GBR 0/1

4. Milan Dratva          SVK  0/1

 

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18.30 (Court 2)

W Singles - Preliminary Group A

 

Katarína Vargová vs Ksenia Polikarpova (ISR)

0:2

(-17, -17)

 

Group A Provisional Standing:

 

1. Ksenia Polikarpova                       ISR 1/0

2. Carolina Marin                           ESP  1/0

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3. Jenjira Stadelmann                   SUI  0/1

4. Katarína Vargová                   SVK  0/1

 

 

 

Boxing

 

Spoiler

 

15.45 (Ring B)

M -92kg - Round of 16

 

David Michálek vs Alexander Okafor (GER)

0:5

Eliminated

 

 

Fencing

 

Spoiler

 

10.00 M Individual Foil - Pool 1

 

Leopold Marc Kuchta vs Stef De Greef (BEL)

Leopold Marc Kuchta vs Nikita Cecet (MDA)

Leopold Marc Kuchta vs Roey Rosenfeld (ISR)

Leopold Marc Kuchta vs Alexander Choupenitch (CZE)

Leopold Marc Kuchta vs Alex Tofalides (CYP)

 

Pool 1 Final Standing:

 

1. Stef De Greef                               BEL  5

2. Alexander Choupenitch       CZE 4

                                                    3. Leopold Marc Kuchta            SVK 2 Qualified for Round of 64

4. Alex Tofalides                             CYP 2

5. Roey Rosenfeld                            ISR  2

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6. Nikita Cecett                         MDA  0

 

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10.00 M Individual Foil - Pool 4

 

Ákos Pirk vs Mathieu Nijs (BEL)

Ákos Pirk vs Alex Postovan (MDA)

Ákos Pirk vs Roger Garcia-Alzorriz (ESP)

Ákos Pirk vs Moritz Lechner (AUT)

Ákos Pirk vs Gergo Szemes (HUN)

Ákos Pirk vs Marek Totusek (CZE)

 

Pool 4 Final Standing:

 

1. Marek Totusek                           CZE  6

2. Gergo Szemes                           HUN 4

3. Moritz Lechner                         AUT 4

4. Roger Garcia-Alzorriz             ESP 3

5. Mathieu Nijs                                 BEL  3

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                     6. Ákos Pirk                                 SVK 1  Eliminated

7. Alex Postovan                        MDA  0

 

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10.00 M Individual Foil - Pool 7

 

Arpád Fazekas vs Davide Filippi (ITA)

Arpád Fazekas vs Artemios Tzovanis (GRE)

Arpád Fazekas vs Maximilian Ettelt (AUT)

Arpád Fazekas vs Luka Gaganidze (GEO)

Arpád Fazekas vs Jaimie Cook (GBR)

Arpád Fazekas vs Oscar Geudvert (BEL)

 

Pool 7 Final Standing:

 

1. Davide Filippi                               ITA  5

2. Jaimie Cook                                GBR 5

3. Maximilian Ettelt                      AUT 3

4. Oscar Geudvert                          BEL 3

5. Artemios Tzovanis                   GRE  2

6. Luka Gaganidze                         GEO  2

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                   7. Arpád Fazekas                        SVK 1 Eliminated

 

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10.00 M Individual Foil - Pool 8

 

Cedrik Serri vs Alp Eyupoglu (TUR)

Cedrik Serri vs Ignacio Breteau (ESP)

Cedrik Serri vs Adrian Wojtkowiak (POL)

Cedrik Serri vs Georgios Manolikas (GRE)

Cedrik Serri vs Boris Dadayan (ARM)

Cedrik Serri vs James-Andrew Davis (GBR)

 

Pool 8 Final Standing:

 

1. James-Andrew Davis            GBR  4

2. Ignacio Breteau                           ESP 4

                                                       3. Cedrik Serri                                   SVK 4    Qualified for Round of 64

4. Adrian Wojtkowiak                     POL 4

5. Georgios Manolikas                   GRE  2

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6. Alp Eyupoglu                                  TUR  2

7. Boris Dadayan                        ARM  1

 

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12.30 M Individual Foil - Round of 64

 

Leopold Marc Kuchta vs Gergo Szemes (HUN)

7:15

Eliminated

 

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12.30 M Individual Foil - Round of 64

 

Cedrik Serri vs Marcus Mepstead (GBR)

12:15

Eliminated

 

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Shooting

 

Spoiler

 

09.00 W 25m Pistol - Qualifiers Day 2

(Final Standing after Rapid)

 

24. Lenka Gajanová  570  Eliminated

 

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10.45 W 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Qualifiers

 

10. Kamila Novotná  586  Eliminated

31. Daniela Demjén Pešková  577  Eliminated

 

 

Pictures: SOŠV/ANDREJ & SAMUEL GALICA

Edited June 26, 2023 by hckošice

[mpjmcevoy 206]

4 hours ago, phelps said:

well, maybe they will never get the Olympic status, but Cards and Billiards are fully recognized "Sports" (and surely they are closer to being true sports than breakdance, artistic swimming, rhythmic + trampoline gymnastics and things like that).

 

so, one day they might actually become Olympic sports.

 

p.s. for what counts (so, nothing at all), I don't think Cards games should be considered full sports, meanwhile Billiards are another story.

Billiards is a sport, Cards is a game. Billiards is a physical activity, involving skill, objective scoring criteria, universal rules and competition. That pretty much defines sport. Gymnastics et al struggle on the objective scoring bit - the more 'artistic impression' is involved, the less it is objective, and the more it is art rather than sport. something like gymnastics and diving at least now have a code of points, but there are too many Olympic events scored subjectively now. Frankly, snooker or billiards would enjoy a similar relationship with golf as table tennis does with tennis (and darts does with Archery) - simply minitaturised version of the sport with stronger emphasis on precision than power and/or speed. i'd have no difficulty with cue sports being included in some capacity.

 

Cards, on the other hand, are about mental skill or even just chance, not physical skill. See also backgammon, schess, quizzing and scrabble. all noble pursuits deserving attention. but not sports.

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5 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

We’re definitely in agreement on that. There should be a good mix of traditional/new wave, TV friendly/spectator friendly, popular/niche, etc. 

 

There’s been too many cuts the last few cycles.

Hard agree. I personally don't think the movement has been inventive enough in ways to get bang for buck from its quotas. It should actively 'sweat' the assets - for example, you could have another TEN track cycling events without a single extra quota, yet have up to three more days of ticket sales (the ten being M+W x Kilo/500, IP, Scratch, Points and Eliminator), you could probably jiggle the 128 archery quotas by making the mens and women's team event '2-man' not '3-man', freeing between 24 and 32 quotas for a barebow field archery event using broadly the same forested venue as the mountain bike uses. I've no problem with Canoe slalom cross, however silly it looks to some, if it takes up few new spaces and just uses already qualified quota holders, There's definately room for a mixed 2 x 200 metre medley relay to give the distance swimmers outside freestyle a relay to aim at, again requiring no more quota places.

 

I'll be honest, I think judo is perhaps a little overgifted with quotas, compared with boxing and taekwondo - you could easily shave 4 per weight, creating nearly 50 free quota places for, as we discussed, e.g a snooker tournament. Golf is missing a trick not showcasing its variety - its main events should be different from the standard PGA fare - i'd suggest a 'supercut' to 16 after 2 rounds of strokeplay, followed by 4 supertight quickfire 9 hole match play rounds - same total holes, but a totally different feel (ps tie breaker is brutal but tv friendly, 1 shot on a par three 10th after a tie i 9 holes, nearest the pin. THAT'S sudden death. Throw in men's and women's pair fourballs, and mixed pair foursomes, same 9 hole rules...

 

you can throw in again a supertight tennis team event, teams of 2 M 2 W, playing 'champion ties' where each player only plays two sets in the order WD (W1W2) MS (M1) XD (M2W2) WS (W1) MD (M1M2) - 5 set matches, but individual players only playing two maximum - 4 groups of three teams, followed by QF, SF and Final - no extra quotas required.

 

none of these ideas require a single extra quota place, but hugely increase bang for the buck...

 

[mpjmcevoy 206]

5 hours ago, phelps said:

Surf is perfect for a delayed summary, live broadcasts have too many empty moments, especially in the decisive rounds, when the available time is longer than in the prelims.

 

I don't agree.

 

if (and it's a big if) the broadcasting director has a good experience and knows the subject quite well, open water swimming is quite enjoyable.

 

sailing can also be very spectacular, but it's necessary the help of a lot of modern technology (and once again, a very experienced director and a good type of boats, capable of sailing at high speed with reasonably strong wind).

 

for surfing, see above.

 

that's just my opinion, of course. I'm not the owner of the truth.

 Is the advent of drone camera tech not ready made for all the events on the open water?

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20 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said:

Cards, on the other hand, are about mental skill or even just chance, not physical skill. See also backgammon, schess, quizzing and scrabble. all noble pursuits deserving attention. but not sports.

This discussion off topic a bit, so maybe it can be moved elsewhere. However, I would add that I’m not personally under the belief that something needs to be a sport to be included in the Olympic Games. The ancient editions were meant to celebrate the full extent of humanity, and had musical contests and whatnot. I’d love to see artistic competitions return in some form. I think chess opens up a lot of possibilities for the Olympic Movement. I’m nearly certain that I’m in the minority on this, but I think it’s worth thinking about what those mediums of competition can add to the Games.

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1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said:

This discussion off topic a bit, so maybe it can be moved elsewhere. However, I would add that I’m not personally under the belief that something needs to be a sport to be included in the Olympic Games. The ancient editions were meant to celebrate the full extent of humanity, and had musical contests and whatnot. I’d love to see artistic competitions return in some form. I think chess opens up a lot of possibilities for the Olympic Movement. I’m nearly certain that I’m in the minority on this, but I think it’s worth thinking about what those mediums of competition can add to the Games.

I'm not against it per se - I think the movement might want to consider 'branching out' back into art and 'mind sports' - if we can have a chess Olympiad, we can certainly have actual chess olympics. But neither do I want to see even niche sports being upended to get Texas Hold'em into the Games!

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Just now, mpjmcevoy said:

I'm not against it per se - I think the movement might want to consider 'branching out' back into art and 'mind sports' - if we can have a chess Olympiad, we can certainly have actual chess olympics. But neither do I want to see even niche sports being upended to get Texas Hold'em into the Games!

Yeah, it all goes back to the current attitude of cutting athletes and events over finding other ways to reduce expenses or better allocate quotas.

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1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yeah, it all goes back to the current attitude of cutting athletes and events over finding other ways to reduce expenses or better allocate quotas.

As I laid out above, if its up to me, my basic rules

- the more events the better, so long as there is integrity to the event and it isn't silly (SlalomX comes perilously close, breaking crosses the line imho).

- If you build an expensive venue that sells tickets - velodrome, for example, slalom course, use the hell out of that thing. Maximise events

- Use novel format events for the bigger well known sports like tennis and golf to showcase diversity. See also skins in swimming

- Reward team sports that create solid small sided games friendly versions, as Basketball, rugby and Volleyball have done

- spot obvious holes'/free event possibilities like the 4 x 200 m medley relay

-Try to make sure all major sports 'families' are covered, alternating if necessary - so cricket and baseball should probably rotate, each happening once every eight years - the ICC and MLB will be relieved and it'll really feel like a once in a lifetime event. Padel, Raquetball and squash might fit in the same category,as might bowls and bowling, Snooker and pool.

- Avoid fadish sports that are highly subjective, they can age really badly (as a few of the winter events already seem to be)

- be hard on sports that have number sprawl - judo seems to have far more than its share compared to other combat sports - you could almost slice 8 per weight class of judo and have an entire Karate tournament without a single extra quota.

- IOC should work far harder to make the Continental Games a huge event in the cycle, and in their own right - note the current somewhat meh European Games - IOC needs to put its weight behind its 'family' of events.

- Hammer, hammer, hammer cheats.

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Day 6 Gold Medal Events  (25)

• 10:00 Triathlon Women's
• 13:15 Shooting Mixed 25m Pistol Team
• 15:10 Muaythai Men's Combat -60kg
• 15:25 Muaythai Men's Combat -67kg
• 15:40 Muaythai Women's Combat -51kg
• 15:45 Shooting Women's Skeet Team
• 16:00 Diving Women's Syncro 10m Platform 
• 16:25 Muaythai Women's Combat -54kg
• 16:40 Muaythai Men's Combat -71kg
• 15:45 Shooting Men's Skeet Team
• 17:10 Muaythai Men's Combat -81kg
• 17:25 Muaythai Women's Combat -57kg
• 17:30 Ski Jumping Women's NH 
• 17:55 Muaythai Women's Combat -60kg
• 18:00 Diving Men's 10m Platform 
• 18:10 Muaythai Men's Combat -81kg
• 18:30 Table Tennis Women's Individual 
• 18:40 Muaythai Women's Combat -63.5kg
• 19:10 Fencing Men's Epee
• 19:20 Table Tennis Men's Individual 
• 19:40 Fencing Women's Sabre 
• 19:55 Breaking B-Girls
• 20:00 Breaking B-Boys
• 21:05 Rugby 7 Women's
• 21:35 Rugby 7 Men's 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Gianlu33