Men's Road Cycling UCI Tour de France 2019

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3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Bernal would win if he was allowed to win  The one time he was showing himself to clearly be stronger than Thomas, they let Poels ride for Thomas to bring him back to Bernal  

 

Doesn't Bernal need to improve his TT first? I feel like he's always losing time there?

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Just now, Monzanator said:

 

Doesn't Bernal need to improve his TT first? I feel like he's always losing time there?

Oh yes, he's definitely not a great TT rider. He is, at least potentially, by far the best climber though. Honestly I prefer great climbers who have to defend and manage their losses in the TT than the other way around (Dumoulin, Thomas for example)  

[Monzanator 4,495]

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Oh yes, he's definitely not a great TT rider. He is, at least potentially, by far the best climber though. Honestly I prefer great climbers who have to defend and manage their losses in the TT than the other way around (Dumoulin, Thomas for example)  

 

Who was the last regular stage tour winner that was losing so much time in TT though? I've been watching some of this stuff since the days of Delgado & Indurain and they were pretty expert at ITT which is largely forgotten these days.

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16 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Who was the last regular stage tour winner that was losing so much time in TT though? I've been watching some of this stuff since the days of Delgado & Indurain and they were pretty expert at ITT which is largely forgotten these days.

Ah yeah, Delgado the ITT expert, who lost the Tour because he was 3 minutes too late for the start of his ITT  

 

 

(of course I get the point)

[heywoodu 15,135]

19 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Who was the last regular stage tour winner that was losing so much time in TT though? 

I would say Mandy/Abandy/Brandy/Andy Schleck

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Stage 16

Tuesday - July 23rd, 2019

h. 13:30 (GMT +2)

 

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    Nimes - Nimes

177km - Flat

 

 

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  EWAN Caleb

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  VIVIANI Elia

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  GROENEWEGEN Dylan

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  ALAPHILIPPE Julian

64:57:30

 

  THOMAS Geraint

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  KRUIJSWIJK Steven

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  SAGAN Peter

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  COLBRELLI Sonny

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  WELLENS Tim

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  PINOT Thibaut

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  DE GENDT Thomas

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  BERNAL Egan

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  GAUDU David

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  MAS Enric

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[Monzanator 4,495]

37 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I would say Mandy/Abandy/Brandy/Andy Schleck

 

Huh? I used to think Schleck was a one-day/Monuments speciallist rather than stage tour rider tbh? Bit like Kwiatkowski these days who will never be in the mix for any of these stage races.

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4 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Huh? I used to think Schleck was a one-day/Monuments speciallist rather than stage tour rider tbh? Bit like Kwiatkowski these days who will never be in the mix for any of these stage races.

With a GT win and three second places spread through the years (and not really after classic succes) I'd say he was both. Although it wasn't really clear what you meant exactly with 'a regular stage tour winner'  

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7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

With a GT win and three second places spread through the years (and not really after classic succes) I'd say he was both. Although it wasn't really clear what you meant exactly with 'a regular stage tour winner'  

 

Schleck's GT window was pretty small so it makes it even more curious. It seems like he evolved from being a one-day speciallist almost by fluke and his brother got busted on doping so it's even more fishy.

 

Kwiatkowski won Tirreno-Adriatico and has podium finishes in Paris-Nice & Basque Country but he's not a GT contender.

 

Regular GT contender is someone who goes for the overall GT win for the best part of 10 years or more. Schleck ain't one. And I realize someone might be a late bloomer only because he is held back by team orders like LeMond for Hinault or Froome for Wiggins.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Monzanator said:

 

Schleck's GT window was pretty small so it makes it even more curious. It seems like he evolved from being a one-day speciallist almost by fluke and his brother got busted on doping so it's even more fishy.

 

Kwiatkowski won Tirreno-Adriatico and has podium finishes in Paris-Nice & Basque Country but he's not a GT contender.

 

Regular GT contender is someone who goes for the overall GT win for the best part of 10 years or more. Schleck ain't one. And I realize someone might be a late bloomer only because he is held back by team orders like LeMond for Hinault or Froome for Wiggins.

 

 

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