Totallympics Open International Song Contest 2022

[catgamer 117]

I am in the UAE on Sunday. Might not be able to post my votes personally due to that. 

[dcro 10,210]

9 hours ago, rybak said:

@dcro Italy did stayed in The Committee after last edition of the contest? I reviewed again yesterday the contest which I did hosted and I wonder who else besides Italy still might be in.

No they dropped out spectacularly at the 2021 Open. They didn't believe Czechia will make it and yet here we are.

Edited November 1, 2022 by dcro

[Wanderer 1,726]

14 hours ago, Werloc said:

I believe that I didn't, she's not the kind of person that'd be easy to explain to  

 

But me and our entire team are going to her place on Thursday for a dinner party, she's 8 months pregnant right now and wanted to see us again before becoming a mother. 

 

It's actually crazy when I think about it, 10 years ago when TISC started I was an absolute nobody in our music industry, now it's only this year's Beatrich and 2017 FOJE that I haven't had the chance to talk to in person.

 

7 years of performing with Jazzu, 3 years with GJan, chatting with Baumila from time to time, talked to Jauti and The Roop on Thursday and the same evening we randomly met Erica Jennings' niece at a bar.  Nobody from my friend group had any idea that the entire Jennings family were secretly living in Lithuania, we only thought it was Erica.  

If you ever meet someone from FOJE I wanna signed anything - a photo, a shirt, a cap, or just a napkin - from you and someone from FOJE!

[OlympicIRL 5,532]

Totallympics Open International Song Contest - Top 40 Chart

 

 

 

 

 

In today's edition of the TISC Open Top 40 Chart, we take our first look inside the top 30. In positions 30 through 26 we find 2 bronze medalists and 3 songs that just missed the podium, finishing in 4th position. Up first at number 30 is a song which was just pipped to the bronze medal on tie-break by virtue of receiving votes from one fewer jury than their Maltese counterparts....

 

 

 

 

 

30

 

 

 

 

Glen Hansard & Markéta Irglová - Falling Slowly

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2020

 

Placement: 4th

 

Points: 143 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.21 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 21 / 34 (61.76%)

 

Medals Won: 1 Gold, 3 Silver, 4 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Hungary

 

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29

 

 

 

 

Airport Impressions - Berlin

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2020

 

Placement: 3rd

 

Points: 143 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.21 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 22 / 34 (64.71%)

 

Medals Won: 3 Gold, 1 Silver, 4 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Israel, India, Mexico

 

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28

 

 

 

 

Bryan Adams - Run To You

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2016

 

Placement: 3rd

 

Points: 135 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.22 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 17 / 32 (53.13%)

 

Medals Won: 1 Gold, 2 Silver, 5 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Ireland

 

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27

 

 

 

 

 

The Rumour Said Fire - The Balcony

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2021

 

Placement: 4th

 

Points: 156 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.33 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 23 / 36 (63.89%)

 

Medals Won: 2 Gold, 1 Silver, 5 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Argentina, Hungary

 

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26

 

 

 

 

 

Enrique Iglesias - Bailamos

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2017

 

Placement: 4th

 

Points: 151 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.44 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 20 / 34 (58.82%)

 

Medals Won: 0 Gold, 4 Silver, 4 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: N/A

 

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[Werloc 3,164]

7 hours ago, Wanderer said:

If you ever meet someone from FOJE I wanna signed anything - a photo, a shirt, a cap, or just a napkin - from you and someone from FOJE!

Well, I've met Mamontovas (lead vocalist) on a few occasions, haven't really spoken to him though. 

 

I don't know if it's our age gap, but he's not a super approachable fellow

 

Probably doesn't help that I have social anxiety either  

[Yannakis 362]

 Armenia 

Cher - Believe

 

[Vic Liu 1,682]

 Malaysia  

 

Namewee feat. Wang Leehom - Stranger In The North

 

This is song is dedicated to strangers left hometown and chasing their dream in the north(Beijing particular in this song, Beijing referring Northern Capital in Chinese). And I am among one of those.

 

[dcro 10,210]

Song Duration

 

For today's random statistical analysis, we will take a look at the duration of TISC entries. Specifically, we will focus on the relationship between various national juries and the duration of songs which tend to score points from these juries. Which juries prefer quick action, and which juries like a good-old slow burn?

 

3 minutes and 56 seconds

Following the completion of the 2022 Annual, a total of 656 songs have been presented on the TISC stage. Duration of these 656 songs varies a great deal, but it all averages out at just above 3 minutes and 56 seconds per song. Unlike the Eurovision Song Contest, there are no time limits to be found in the TISC rulebook. It is interesting, however, that the adopted average after the first 18 editions stands at almost exactly a minute longer than the Eurovision limit.

 

Mi Pais vs Kelmti Horra (for now)

The shortest song entered so far has been Uruguay's Mi Pais. Taking just 115 seconds, it is indeed the only sub 2 minutes entry presented to date. Too short for some? Perhaps. Mi Pais placed 29th at the 2017 Open with 32 points.

 

 

On the other side of the spectrum, we find Kelmti Horra representing Tunisia. Taking 6 minutes and 45 seconds (!), it can undoubtedly be classified in the epic category. Kelmti Horra scored 71 points to finish 16th at the 2016 Open. This record is set to be broken this week in Czechia however, as Egypt's 180° takes up a whopping 7 minutes and 19 seconds (excluding intro/outro).

 

 

Finally, who is the Average Joe of the TISC? Well, there have been exactly five songs to date with a duration of 3:56 - Jaadagi Nii (EST, 2014 Open), Geboren um zu Leben (GER, 2014 Open), Crazy For You (CAN, 2015 Annual), Onaj Dan (CRO, 2017 Annual) and most recently Pelan-Pelan Saja (INA, 2019 Open).

 

Song Duration Sweetspot

Today, we would like to focus on finding the song duration sweetspot for every jury. For this purpose, we took a look at the voting history of each jury and calculated the average duration of all songs which have scored points from the said jury. We used the weighted average, so for example, duration of the songs which were awarded 12 points hold 12 times more weight than duration of the songs which were awarded 1 point, and so on.

 

Short and Sweet

So we have crunched the numbers and the observation is as follows. Voting records show that the Venezuelan jury prefers short songs the most with a weighted average of just 3:30. If your entry for the 2022 Open clocks over 4 minutes, then maybe don't expect much from Venezuela. Out of 24 songs which have received points from Venezuela so far, only two clock at over 4 minutes and none goes beyond 5 minutes. Pretty extraordinary, given that the all-time average duration of TISC entries is very nearly 4 minutes exactly. Ironically, Venezuela itself tends to enter fairly long songs into the contests. Their shortest one to date - Sin Ti, 2019 Annual - still clocks at eyebrow-raising 4:57, while the other two (No Te Vas, 2018 Annual and Es Epico, 2022 Open) both go well over 5 minutes! Practice what you preach?

 

Other juries which are statistically most likely to reward shorter songs are Ukraine, Uruguay, Norway, Iran, Indonesia, Spain, Bulgaria, Lebanon. Ukraine should be noted as the jury who statistically awards medals to the shortest songs. Average duration of their medal picks stands at just 3:25.

 

Going the Distance

On the other side of the spectrum, we find Morocco. And Morocco likes it long, very long. Their weighted average stands at whopping 4:16, and the medal picks average at 4:35! 3 out of 5 Morocco's gold medal picks to date clock over 5 minutes, including two winners - Zombie (2014 Open) and Song About Love (2015 Open).

 

Other juries which are statistically most likely to reward longer songs are Guyana, Vietnam, Denmark, Hungary, Ireland, Egypt, Turkey, Chile, Azerbaijan.

 

Below you can find a table with juries grouped around their weighted average ("sweetspot song duration"). Only the juries taking part in this edition are included. It comes as no surprise that most juries are grouped around the average song duration of 3:56 (even if only Croatia hits that mark exactly). There are pockets of juries to be found around 10 seconds or more away from 3:56. On the shorter side - INA, BUL, ESP, IND, ISR, SLO; and on the longer side - CHI, TUR, EGY, IRL, HUN, DEN, VIE. As outlined above, Venezuela and Ukraine are by far the biggest outliers.

 

Sweetspot Song Duration	Juries
3:30
3:31
3:32
3:33
3:34
3:35
3:36
3:37
3:38
3:39
3:40
3:41
3:42
3:43
3:44
3:45
3:46
3:47
3:48
3:49
3:50
3:51
3:52
3:53
3:54
3:55
3:56
3:57
3:58
3:59
4:00
4:01
4:02
4:03
4:04
4:05
4:06
4:07
4:08
4:09

[OlympicIRL 5,532]

Totallympics Open International Song Contest - Top 40 Chart

 

 

 

 

 

In today's installment of the TISC Open Top 40, we have 5 more songs that achieved much success in the contest, among them the silver and bronze medalists from TISC Open 2019 and indeed the 4th place finisher from that edition also features in the chart today.

However, we rejoin our countdown of the TISC Open Top 40 Chart at position number 25 and the late Christina Grimmie. Her entry Feelin' Good will always be remembered as the inaugural entry for the United States and her memory lives on in TISC....

 

 

 

 

 

25

 

 

 

 

 

Christina Grimmie - Feelin' Good

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2013

 

Placement: 6th

 

Points: 150 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.55 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 21 / 33 (63.64%)

 

Medals Won: 2 Gold, 2 Silver, 2 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Sweden, Vietnam

 

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24

 

 

 

 

 

Michael Bublé - Close Your Eyes

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2013

 

Placement: 5th

 

Points: 150 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.55 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 23 / 33 (69.70%)

 

Medals Won: 1 Gold, 2 Silver, 2 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Sweden, Germany

 

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23

 

 

 

 

 

Bea Palya - Szabadon

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2019

 

Placement: 4th

 

Points: 167 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.64 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 20 / 36 (55.56%)

 

Medals Won: 2 Gold, 2 Silver, 6 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Egypt, Portugal

 

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22

 

 

 

 

 

ABBA - Mamma Mia

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2019

 

Placement: 3rd

 

Points: 171 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.75 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 28 / 36 (77.78%)

 

Medals Won: 2 Gold, 1 Silver, 2 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Italy, Kazakhstan

 

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21

 

 

 

 

 

Vance Joy - Riptide

 

 

Edition: TISC Open 2019

 

Placement: 2nd

 

Points: 172 points

 

Points-Per-Jury Average: 4.78 pts

 

Number of Juries That Voted For The Song: 22 / 36 (61.11%)

 

Medals Won: 3 Gold, 3 Silver, 2 Bronze

 

Juries Who Awarded Their 12 Points To This Song: Brazil, France, Indonesia

 

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[OlympicIRL 5,532]

49 minutes ago, dcro said:

Song Duration

 

For today's random statistical analysis, we will take a look at the duration of TISC entries. Specifically, we will focus on the relationship between various national juries and the duration of songs which tend to score points from these juries. Which juries prefer quick action, and which juries like a good-old slow burn?

 

3 minutes and 56 seconds

Following the completion of the 2022 Annual, a total of 656 songs have been presented on the TISC stage. Duration of these 656 songs varies a great deal, but it all averages out at just above 3 minutes and 56 seconds per song. Unlike the Eurovision Song Contest, there are no time limits to be found in the TISC rulebook. It is interesting, however, that the adopted average after the first 18 editions stands at almost exactly a minute longer than the Eurovision limit.

 

Mi Pais vs Kelmti Horra (for now)

The shortest song entered so far has been Uruguay's Mi Pais. Taking just 115 seconds, it is indeed the only sub 2 minutes entry presented to date. Too short for some? Perhaps. Mi Pais placed 29th at the 2017 Open with 32 points.

 

 

On the other side of the spectrum, we find Kelmti Horra representing Tunisia. Taking 6 minutes and 45 seconds (!), it can undoubtedly be classified in the epic category. Kelmti Horra scored 71 points to finish 16th at the 2016 Open. This record is set to be broken this week in Czechia however, as Egypt's 180° takes up a whopping 7 minutes and 19 seconds (excluding intro/outro).

 

 

Finally, who is the Average Joe of the TISC? Well, there have been exactly five songs to date with a duration of 3:56 - Jaadagi Nii (EST, 2014 Open), Geboren um zu Leben (GER, 2014 Open), Crazy For You (CAN, 2015 Annual), Onaj Dan (CRO, 2017 Annual) and most recently Pelan-Pelan Saja (INA, 2019 Open).

 

Song Duration Sweetspot

Today, we would like to focus on finding the song duration sweetspot for every jury. For this purpose, we took a look at the voting history of each jury and calculated the average duration of all songs which have scored points from the said jury. We used the weighted average, so for example, duration of the songs which were awarded 12 points hold 12 times more weight than duration of the songs which were awarded 1 point, and so on.

 

Short and Sweet

So we have crunched the numbers and the observation is as follows. Voting records show that the Venezuelan jury prefers short songs the most with a weighted average of just 3:30. If your entry for the 2022 Open clocks over 4 minutes, then maybe don't expect much from Venezuela. Out of 24 songs which have received points from Venezuela so far, only two clock at over 4 minutes and none goes beyond 5 minutes. Pretty extraordinary, given that the all-time average duration of TISC entries is very nearly 4 minutes exactly. Ironically, Venezuela itself tends to enter fairly long songs into the contests. Their shortest one to date - Sin Ti, 2019 Annual - still clocks at eyebrow-raising 4:57, while the other two (No Te Vas, 2018 Annual and Es Epico, 2022 Open) both go well over 5 minutes! Practice what you preach?

 

Other juries which are statistically most likely to reward shorter songs are Ukraine, Uruguay, Norway, Iran, Indonesia, Spain, Bulgaria, Lebanon. Ukraine should be noted as the jury who statistically awards medals to the shortest songs. Average duration of their medal picks stands at just 3:25.

 

Going the Distance

On the other side of the spectrum, we find Morocco. And Morocco likes it long, very long. Their weighted average stands at whopping 4:16, and the medal picks average at 4:35! 3 out of 5 Morocco's gold medal picks to date clock over 5 minutes, including two winners - Zombie (2014 Open) and Song About Love (2015 Open).

 

Other juries which are statistically most likely to reward longer songs are Guyana, Vietnam, Denmark, Hungary, Ireland, Egypt, Turkey, Chile, Azerbaijan.

 

Below you can find a table with juries grouped around their weighted average ("sweetspot song duration"). Only the juries taking part in this edition are included. It comes as no surprise that most juries are grouped around the average song duration of 3:56 (even if only Croatia hits that mark exactly). There are pockets of juries to be found around 10 seconds or more away from 3:56. On the shorter side - INA, BUL, ESP, IND, ISR, SLO; and on the longer side - CHI, TUR, EGY, IRL, HUN, DEN, VIE. As outlined above, Venezuela and Ukraine are by far the biggest outliers.

 

Sweetspot Song Duration	Juries
3:30
3:31
3:32
3:33
3:34
3:35
3:36
3:37
3:38
3:39
3:40
3:41
3:42
3:43
3:44
3:45
3:46
3:47
3:48
3:49
3:50
3:51
3:52
3:53
3:54
3:55
3:56
3:57
3:58
3:59
4:00
4:01
4:02
4:03
4:04
4:05
4:06
4:07
4:08
4:09

 

 

Is this the formation of a new breakaway committee?