Winter Youth Olympic Games 2020

[heywoodu 15,145]

7 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

OK so @Olympian1010 is wrong. The qualifications for these aren't easy. IOC at complete fault. 

Oh come on  

[Olympian1010 7,976]

5 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

OK so @Olympian1010 is wrong. The qualifications for these aren't easy. IOC at complete fault. 

No, the qualifications are easy. India requested quotas, but failed to register a single eligible skier. Essentially no skiers from India competed at FIS events, so they didn’t qualify. There’s a difference between quotas requested, and quota eligibility. Realistically an Indian skier basically need to complete a Slalom without falling on their ass, or face, and without crashing. However, no Indians entered an FIS event, so the blame lies with no one really. India just didn’t try to qualify.

[Olympian1010 7,976]

By my calculations the FIS still has the potential to reallocate 15 quotas. However, I’m not sure about how the process works at this point, or if they plan to reallocate those quotas. What happened is that each discipline was given a maximum amount of quotas, but some of the disciplines couldn’t meet that maximum even after allocation (example: Ski Jumping should have had 40M/40W, but instead ended up with 38M/35W after all reallocation). The FIS seems to have given some of these “lost” quotas to other disciplines, though there doesn’t seem to be a real method to it (they’re just giving them off wherever pretty much). We are now left with 15 quotas and countries who still seem to want a few, but I don’t know if the FIS intends to reallocate them, or if there will just be less athletes than allocated for in Lausanne?

[Olympian1010 7,976]

Speed Skating Reallocations:

 

Rejected 1 Male:

 

Rejected 1 Female:

 

Gained 1 Male:

 

Gained 1 Female:

[Fly_like_a_don 1,090]

On 14/12/2019 at 14:42, Olympian1010 said:

No, the qualifications are easy. India requested quotas, but failed to register a single eligible skier. Essentially no skiers from India competed at FIS events, so they didn’t qualify. There’s a difference between quotas requested, and quota eligibility. Realistically an Indian skier basically need to complete a Slalom without falling on their ass, or face, and without crashing. However, no Indians entered an FIS event, so the blame lies with no one really. India just didn’t try to qualify.

Forget India. 

  All these what do you have to say? 

 

It's not that qualifications should be easy. Infact all unqualified nations MUST be allowed to send 1 athlete in either speed skating, short track speed skating ,alpine or cross country skiing. Otherwise these games won't improve. 

[heywoodu 15,145]

Just now, Fly_like_a_don said:

Forget India. 

  All these what do you have to say? 

 

They don't have anyone good enough to qualify according to the really not very harsh standards. When you watch the competitions, you'll see there are some athletes who are really, really, really far behind (like a half minute behind in a run of less than a minute). If a few athletes who had the potential to stay upright and finish in a sort of normal way had tried, those countries would have qualified someone.

[Fly_like_a_don 1,090]

4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

They don't have anyone good enough to qualify according to the really not very harsh standards. When you watch the competitions, you'll see there are some athletes who are really, really, really far behind (like a half minute behind in a run of less than a minute). If a few athletes who had the potential to stay upright and finish in a sort of normal way had tried, those countries would have qualified someone.

What matters is global representation

I'm ok even if they take 5 minutes, because you have to start some time now or later. 

[heywoodu 15,145]

11 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

What matters is global representation

I'm ok even if they take 5 minutes, because you have to start some time now or later. 

 

Yes, and when they're good enough to at least be a little respectable, they can then start in events like this. There has to be some sort of base line, some basic capability one should have to be able to compete.

[Fly_like_a_don 1,090]

2 hours ago, heywoodu said:

 

Yes, and when they're good enough to at least be a little respectable, they can then start in events like this. There has to be some sort of base line, some basic capability one should have to be able to compete.

For that they should be allowed to participate in winter Olympics. Other wise no one would really care. 

[heywoodu 15,145]

47 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

For that they should be allowed to participate in winter Olympics. Other wise no one would really care. 

They can when they have a basic ability to qualify