Olympian1010 7,541 Posted May 3, 2020 #721 Share Posted May 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said: So human rights isn't a issue to you then I was going to mention that, but it doesn’t matter in this race. I think Qatar is the better of the two (it’s generally regarded as the “most liberal” of the Middle East powers). “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,747 Posted May 3, 2020 #722 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Fly_like_a_don said: So human rights isn't a issue to you then Coz we have to admit, those "dubious human rights issues countries" are the ones more eager to and able to afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,189 Posted May 5, 2020 #723 Share Posted May 5, 2020 This is interesting. Bermuda has 9 medals from the Pan American Games, according to Wikipedia. However, it looks like they failed to count two (!) more medals Bermuda has apparently won in 1991. MJ Tumbridge won an individual silver in eventing and lead Bermudan team to a team silver as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_at_the_Pan_American_Games http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20150710/SPORT31/150719975 Granted, it's possible that confusion was created due to eventing competitions being held in Atlanta instead of Havana, but still, those competitoins still counted, so I guess Bermuda has 11 medals after all. I'm afraid it's impossible to find complete podiums of those two competitions though. mrv86 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,747 Posted May 5, 2020 #724 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, dcro said: This is interesting. Bermuda has 9 medals from the Pan American Games, according to Wikipedia. However, it looks like they failed to count two (!) more medals Bermuda has apparently won in 1991. MJ Tumbridge won an individual silver in eventing and lead Bermudan team to a team silver as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_at_the_Pan_American_Games http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20150710/SPORT31/150719975 Granted, it's possible that confusion was created due to eventing competitions being held in Atlanta instead of Havana, but still, those competitoins still counted, so I guess Bermuda has 11 medals after all. I'm afraid it's impossible to find complete podiums of those two competitions though. Will try to find some info and add it when I have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,189 Posted May 5, 2020 #725 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Griff88 said: Will try to find some info and add it when I have time. I managed to confirm that Canada won team and individual golds (Page 32), what leaves only the bronze medalists in mystery (and the composition of the Bermudan team). http://www.startinggate.ca/ourclients/CEMediaGuide.pdf Griff88 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,541 Posted May 5, 2020 #726 Share Posted May 5, 2020 @dcro @Griff88 There’s no mention of Eventing being held at the 1991 Pan American Games in the official results. The medal tally also does not include Eventing (as only 4 groups of medals were awarded/counted). There’s also no mention of Bermudan athletes on the official entry lists. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,541 Posted May 5, 2020 #727 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Even if Eventing was held, it seems likely that it has never been counted as a official. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,189 Posted May 5, 2020 #728 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Well, that seems unnecessary. But then again, on second look I realize that 2003 Fair Hill competitions also didn't count for the medal table, so I guess that solves it. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,747 Posted May 5, 2020 #729 Share Posted May 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: @dcro @Griff88 There’s no mention of Eventing being held at the 1991 Pan American Games in the official results. The medal tally also does not include Eventing (as only 4 groups of medals were awarded/counted). There’s also no mention of Bermudan athletes on the official entry lists. So then it is just a local bias. But still, it give me the urge to complete the incomplete since I can't unsee it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,541 Posted May 5, 2020 #730 Share Posted May 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Griff88 said: So then it is just a local bias. But still, it give me the urge to complete the incomplete since I can't unsee it Well, they will never be official medalists since Panam Sports does not recognize them as such. It’s a fun piece of history, but that’s about all it will ever be probably. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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