Men's Football UEFA European Championship 2020

[OlympicsFan 860]

9 minutes ago, Vektor said:

I see that the Western articles about the behavior of the Hungarian fans have arrived as it was expected. Cue to sweeping statements from some people about how Hungary is fascist and racist and shouldn't be allowed to host international events. Interestingly enough nobody is making a big deal about how the French fans were throwing plastic glasses and bottles in the direction of Gulácsi. 

 

But they will "show it to Hungary" in Munich by decorating buildings with pride flags and maybe even have the arena lit up in rainbow colors (doubt that UEFA will allow the latter). As if anyone here would either care or appreciate such a gesture. Hungarian conservatives won't give a shit about it or they will laugh at it, and the Hungarian progressives will see it as an empty gesture because they know Germany won't actually do anything that can help their cause in Hungary. 

Yes, the west is a big blob, everyone is the same and all people here have a Common Agenda. Baffling to see people with such a limited understanding of the world they live in.

 

Also:

1) Not using rainbow colors for the arena would be better how?

2) You realize that people can do things in support of other people instead of only doing it to „punish“ someone else?

Sometimes it helps not to be that self-centered.

3) People that feel the need to tell you that they don’t give a shit, usually give a shit ...

4) So what exactly are you doing apart from rambling on the internet?

 

There are different cultures and trying to force your values on another culture usually doesn’t work. Usually we see a conflict between values and money/self-interest and usually the latter wins out. If you aren’t willing to give something up to defend your values, you can’t be surprised if other people don’t take you seriously. The solution is to try to deal with people with different values as little as possible and to let them live in their own world.

[Monzanator 4,768]

Italy has nobody on a yellow card but still field a B team vs Wales. At least Verratti is back.

 

 

[Vektor 3,326]

47 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

Yes, the west is a big blob, everyone is the same and all people here have a Common Agenda. Baffling to see people with such a limited understanding of the world they live in.

 

Also:

1) Not using rainbow colors for the arena would be better how?

2) You realize that people can do things in support of other people instead of only doing it to „punish“ someone else?

Sometimes it helps not to be that self-centered.

3) People that feel the need to tell you that they don’t give a shit, usually give a shit ...

4) So what exactly are you doing apart from rambling on the internet?

 

There are different cultures and trying to force your values on another culture usually doesn’t work. Usually we see a conflict between values and money/self-interest and usually the latter wins out. If you aren’t willing to give something up to defend your values, you can’t be surprised if other people don’t take you seriously. The solution is to try to deal with people with different values as little as possible and to let them live in their own world.

How are the Western liberals aren't one giant blob at this point in many ways? After many decades of Americanization there's no point in making a distinction when it comes social issues, especially in terms of how Western liberal media writes about these issues. There are "Hungary BAD" articles being written in multiple Western countries, so why should I bother listing the countries instead of just calling them "the West"? 

 

If it's okay to use the rainbow colors as part of the official decoration, what's stopping other, less liberal countries to use political symbols in the official decoration that are less accepted in the West? 

 

And they aren't supporting anyone, that's the issue. It's reactionary nonsense just like all the pride flags during the visit of Putin. It's obvious what the motivation behind this is, there were no talks about pride flags at the EUROs before Orbán decided that this will be the hot topic of the month to make his voters forget that he's selling the country to China. 

[Monzanator 4,768]

Seferovic scores!

[hckošice 15,520]

Shaqiri 2-0

[Monzanator 4,768]

Shaqiri scores too and Turkey can pack their bags

[Vektor 3,326]

I am starting to feel really sorry for Turkey, I hope that they score at least one goal somehow. 

[hckošice 15,520]

1-0

 

Standing right now

ITA 9

WAL 4 (3:2)

SUI 4 (3:4)

TUR 0

[Federer91 3,024]

Italia B team doing the job as well 

[Monzanator 4,768]

If Turkey concede one more goal they will join Denmark 2000 as the worst group stage performance in Euro finals history (3 games, 0 pts, 0-8 goal difference).

 

They can become first team with zero goals scored in two different Euro finals since group stage was introduced in 1980 (they went 0, 0-5 in 1996).