mpjmcevoy 362 Posted September 5, 2023 #251 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, bestmen said: Africa should boycot this edition , what if the fire begins ,...who will extinguish it !!! Put the bong down, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 362 Posted September 5, 2023 #252 Share Posted September 5, 2023 16 hours ago, phelps said: p.s. Flag Football is also just a kid's game please, God! save us from this! Hard Agree. There is an established full contact small sided version of gridiron, Arena Football. That could 'maybe' be justified if there was sufficient international interest. but flag? If World Rugby had suggested adding 'touch rugby' instead of sevens, they'd have been mocked forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 362 Posted September 5, 2023 #253 Share Posted September 5, 2023 16 hours ago, phelps said: Breaking is NOT a sport...there are no set competition rules, the winners are not clear to the audience and those who are proclamed as winners are never the true best in the game in that given day same for artistic swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, trampoline gymnastics, dressage, surf and skateboard LET'S GET RID OF THOSE ARTISTIC ENTERTAINING ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE NEVER TO DO WITH SPORT! ALTIUS, CITIUS, FORTIUS...if the final result is not measurable according to at least one of those 3 principles, it's not an a sport and it shouldn't be in the Olympic program Archery was one of the first events in the Olympics - which of higher, faster, stronger is it? I agree the subjectivity and arbitrariness of Breaking is a bad look - it is not Olympics ready, in my honest opinion. The gymnastics set have tried hard to move toward a code of points that has a focus on objective criteria - there's no reason skateboard and BMX freestyle cannot follow suit. Surf is in the same place as breaking - not ready, not sufficiently objective. I have no comment to make on dancing horses as sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,844 Posted September 5, 2023 #254 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Report in "The Times" in London "Olympic chiefs are set to give cricket the go-ahead this week to be included as a new sport for the 2028 Games in Los Angeles. Olympic chiefs are set to give cricket the go-ahead this week to be included as a new sport for the 2028 Games in Los Angeles. The International Olympic Committee’s executive board is to decide on additional sports for the LA Games on Friday and sources say that men’s and women’s T20 cricket will be included. Any decision will need to be ratified by the IOC’s session in Mumbai, India, next month. Thomas Bach, the IOC’s president, is understood to be very keen to include cricket because of its appeal to the vast populations of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which are traditionally not so engaged in Olympic sports as other parts of the world. An Olympic T20 tournament would be expected to attract enormous numbers of TV viewers. LA 2028 organisers (LA28) are understood to be willing to accommodate cricket in return for “flag football” — a non-contact version of American football where players are tackled by having Velcro tags removed — being included as well. Bach has been encouraging India to bid for the 2036 Olympics, which would be the first time it has hosted the Games, saying there is a “strong case” to take the multi-sport event there. Having cricket established as an Olympic sport would be a big boost towards that and would also be appropriate for the 2032 Games in Brisbane, Australia. It would also receive a positive reception in Mumbai during the IOC session on October 15-17. The ICC has agreed to some compromises — making the men’s and women’s tournaments run at different times and making them as short as possible with two matches a day. The format would be two groups of four teams, with the top two in each going through to the semi-finals. The IOC and LA28 are also understood to have reached a compromise over total athlete numbers which would allow more than the total of 10,500. Organisers have said the athletes’ village can operate inside its full capacity by spreading the schedule more, so that different sports take place at different times." mpjmcevoy and Roamingrover86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 362 Posted September 5, 2023 #255 Share Posted September 5, 2023 19 hours ago, Noorderling29 said: If it’s variety we are looking for, there must be alternatives that are easier to follow than Cricket. Re: Breaking. I watched the finals of the European Games, and I did not have a clue how the battles were going. Cricket is incredibly easy to follow. The JARGON is complex. The game is simple. Bat and ball / 'safe haven' game two teams of 11, substitutes can field, but not bat or bowl. large oblongish field of play, in the middle a strip and two targets at either end. A player in the fielding team 'bowls' 6 balls at a time toward a target (wicket), alternating each end, with a specialist 'catcher' behind the target at all times. all eleven of the fielding team are on the pitch. There are two batters at any one time, the striker and the non-striker. They score by hitting the ball, and running between the targets before the ball is returned to the target, each cross over is one 'run', you can get extra runs for getting the ball over the boundary rope, with (4) or without (6) bounces. Both must run to score unless a boundary is scored. Runs are also awarded for foul balls You can get a batter out if you strike the target when he bowls (or the batter does), your team catch the ball after striker hits it and before it bounces, you hit the target before a running batsman has got back in time (run out), you hit the target if a batsman 'wanders' out of his safe haven (stumping) immediately after a ball is bowled, or on some occasions if the ball hits the batters leg, and the leg is in the way of the target (LBW) There are also a small number of ways to be out for basically obstruction, but they are rare. Batsman bat one after another in one big turn until the batting side no longer has two batsmen not out to run - at that stage the team is 'all out', and batting and field team swap places, and the 'new' batting side tries to beat the score of the first side. Bowling can be done in a variety of ways, with the key that ball should be released before a foot crosses a certain line, ball should hit the ground on the way, and ball should be released with an unbent elbow - as such, the ball is 'bowled' not 'pitched' In a 'limited overs' game, the batting team has a maximum number of balls (usually calculated in batches of 6 called 'overs', because that's when the fielding side switch over and bowl from the other end - so 120 balls is 20 overs) and once they've used them up, even if they have men left to bat, the batting teams turn (innings) is over. And that is basically it - everything else is nuance and jargon, not needed to understand the game, only certain commentators Key difference is - Baseball is a pitchers game, scores are low, and the key gamechanging moments therefore belong, largely, to the batter (generally, you get a bigger cheer for a home run than a strike out) - Cricket is a batters game, scores are high, and the key gamechanging moments therefore belong, largely, to the fielder (generally, you get a bigger cheer for a wicket than a four) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 362 Posted September 5, 2023 #256 Share Posted September 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dragon said: Report in "The Times" in London "Olympic chiefs are set to give cricket the go-ahead this week to be included as a new sport for the 2028 Games in Los Angeles. Olympic chiefs are set to give cricket the go-ahead this week to be included as a new sport for the 2028 Games in Los Angeles. The International Olympic Committee’s executive board is to decide on additional sports for the LA Games on Friday and sources say that men’s and women’s T20 cricket will be included. Any decision will need to be ratified by the IOC’s session in Mumbai, India, next month. Thomas Bach, the IOC’s president, is understood to be very keen to include cricket because of its appeal to the vast populations of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which are traditionally not so engaged in Olympic sports as other parts of the world. An Olympic T20 tournament would be expected to attract enormous numbers of TV viewers. LA 2028 organisers (LA28) are understood to be willing to accommodate cricket in return for “flag football” — a non-contact version of American football where players are tackled by having Velcro tags removed — being included as well. Bach has been encouraging India to bid for the 2036 Olympics, which would be the first time it has hosted the Games, saying there is a “strong case” to take the multi-sport event there. Having cricket established as an Olympic sport would be a big boost towards that and would also be appropriate for the 2032 Games in Brisbane, Australia. It would also receive a positive reception in Mumbai during the IOC session on October 15-17. The ICC has agreed to some compromises — making the men’s and women’s tournaments run at different times and making them as short as possible with two matches a day. The format would be two groups of four teams, with the top two in each going through to the semi-finals. The IOC and LA28 are also understood to have reached a compromise over total athlete numbers which would allow more than the total of 10,500. Organisers have said the athletes’ village can operate inside its full capacity by spreading the schedule more, so that different sports take place at different times." If you get cricket in in'28, it vastly increases the chances of India bidding for - and getting - a 36 Olympics - and indeed South Africa getting a 40 Olympics - and if cricket is in 28, 32, 36 and 40, you're never getting rid of it, except possibly in a swap with baseball in those hosts who much favour the baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 362 Posted September 5, 2023 #257 Share Posted September 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dragon said: Report in "The Times" in London "Olympic chiefs are set to give cricket the go-ahead this week to be included as a new sport for the 2028 Games in Los Angeles. Olympic chiefs are set to give cricket the go-ahead this week to be included as a new sport for the 2028 Games in Los Angeles. The International Olympic Committee’s executive board is to decide on additional sports for the LA Games on Friday and sources say that men’s and women’s T20 cricket will be included. Any decision will need to be ratified by the IOC’s session in Mumbai, India, next month. Thomas Bach, the IOC’s president, is understood to be very keen to include cricket because of its appeal to the vast populations of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which are traditionally not so engaged in Olympic sports as other parts of the world. An Olympic T20 tournament would be expected to attract enormous numbers of TV viewers. LA 2028 organisers (LA28) are understood to be willing to accommodate cricket in return for “flag football” — a non-contact version of American football where players are tackled by having Velcro tags removed — being included as well. Bach has been encouraging India to bid for the 2036 Olympics, which would be the first time it has hosted the Games, saying there is a “strong case” to take the multi-sport event there. Having cricket established as an Olympic sport would be a big boost towards that and would also be appropriate for the 2032 Games in Brisbane, Australia. It would also receive a positive reception in Mumbai during the IOC session on October 15-17. The ICC has agreed to some compromises — making the men’s and women’s tournaments run at different times and making them as short as possible with two matches a day. The format would be two groups of four teams, with the top two in each going through to the semi-finals. The IOC and LA28 are also understood to have reached a compromise over total athlete numbers which would allow more than the total of 10,500. Organisers have said the athletes’ village can operate inside its full capacity by spreading the schedule more, so that different sports take place at different times." There was talk a while back of a THREE week Olympics, that would be possible because athletes would no longer stay in the village the whole time, but would move out as their sports concluded - apparently there would be 'mini' closing ceremonies each weekend to allow departing athletes a big last night, and Swimming, Gymnastics and Athletics would be used as the week long 'tent-poles', with swimming overlapping with gymnastics on the second weekend, and gymnastics overlapping with athletics on the third. The idea seemed to be that there were massive cost savings to be made in having an athletes village of about 7000 - even if you had to fill, empty and refill the village twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,844 Posted September 5, 2023 #258 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Sorry, I missed out the final section of the report from The Times "The new sports at Paris 2024, including break-dancing and sport climbing, are expected to be retained. Baseball and softball’s hopes of being reinstated for LA 2028 are still in doubt due to issues with Major League Baseball, while there are some concerns that modern pentathlon will be dropped." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 1,223 Posted September 5, 2023 #259 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dragon said: LA 2028 organisers (LA28) are understood to be willing to accommodate cricket in return for “flag football” — a non-contact version of American football where players are tackled by having Velcro tags removed — being included as well. What a load of BS... Originally, the additional sports - who were part of the Agenda 2020 program whose sole purpose was to cut costs for the hosts - were a neat idea on paper. They were supposedly be a net-postive for the host using local sports popularity to ease the pain of hosting. Now LA, will have to build a freaking dam cricket stadium somewhere. It was never reported, but it's also very easy to assume Breaking entry for 2024 was IOC Bach's idea and only his. Basically, these additional sports have been turn into a way of expanding the olympic program and adding new sports, potentially huge cash makers for the organisation, without the political cost of dropping other established olympic sports. Edited September 5, 2023 by De_Gambassi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalamAkhi 316 Posted September 5, 2023 #260 Share Posted September 5, 2023 18 hours ago, phelps said: Breaking is NOT a sport...there are no set competition rules, the winners are not clear to the audience and those who are proclamed as winners are never the true best in the game in that given day same for artistic swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, trampoline gymnastics, dressage, surf and skateboard LET'S GET RID OF THOSE ARTISTIC ENTERTAINING ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE NEVER TO DO WITH SPORT! ALTIUS, CITIUS, FORTIUS...if the final result is not measurable according to at least one of those 3 principles, it's not an a sport and it shouldn't be in the Olympic program Grazie ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now