Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

[heywoodu 14,954]

1 minute ago, Pavlo said:

for nations choosing to try to have their own good runners, for "justice"

sure we could have 3 Ethiopians or Moroccans...but i think it leads to nothing, African-born runners have clear advantage. UK, France is sth different, Italy, Turkey etc...c`mon Ali Mustapha Sprinter Barnes - it`s even a bit funny

 

So what, someone who happens to be Kenyan or Ethiopian moves to let's say Denmark, for reasons that have nothing to do with athletics, turns out to be the fastest runner there and then should be ignored by the federation or something? All in the name of 'justice for the true Europeans'? 

[heywoodu 14,954]

4 minutes ago, Dunadan said:

Your mind is not clear, it's twisted.

Who is using foreign athletes to pretend they are strong?

By your logic, Muir beating Ennaoui this evening will be "good news for Europe"?

Meucci beating the Polish runner of African origins in 2014 was good for Europe? 

Turkey, Bahrain and Qatar  

 

But apart from that, yeah. What you said. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by heywoodu

[Pavlo 141]

1 minutę temu, heywoodu napisał:

 

So what, someone who happens to be Kenyan or Ethiopian moves to let's say Denmark, for reasons that have nothing to do with athletics, turns out to be the fastest runner there and then should be ignored by the federation or something? All in the name of 'justice for the true Europeans'? 

you see...but what is the chance that he chooses Kosovo or Bosnia or some other poorer country. At the end it is mainly for "richer" nations and it gives them a bit of unfair advantage

[Monzanator 4,487]

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

 

So what, someone who happens to be Kenyan or Ethiopian moves to let's say Denmark, for reasons that have nothing to do with athletics, turns out to be the fastest runner there and then should be ignored by the federation or something? All in the name of 'justice for the true Europeans'? 

 

Denmark is invisible in athletics so there's a huge chance they could field a whole team of Kenyans and break all the national EC records

[heywoodu 14,954]

1 minute ago, Monzanator said:

 

We didn't buy these athletes when they showed some sporting promise as juniors or got married to a Polish citizen. Ennaoui lives in Poland since she's 2 years old. 

Yeah, like many athletes with African origins competing for a European nation also were not 'bought' in the Turkish style. 

 

One example: Sifan Hassan moved from Ethiopia to the Netherlands, but only in the Netherlands really started to train. It's not like she moved to another country for better athletics performances. It's 'unfair'? For who, exactly? Unfair for Dutch athletes who, unlike Hassan, happen to have a white skin? 

[Dunadan 1,103]

Just now, Monzanator said:

 

We didn't buy these athletes when they showed some sporting promise as juniors or got married to a Polish citizen. Ennaoui lives in Poland since she's 2 years old. 

And you think this is true only for Poland? A few days ago you called Amdouni and Crippa a "bunch of Africans"...Amdouni born in France, Crippa lost his parents and was adopted by an Italian family when he was a toddler...and yet you called them "bunch of Africans"

[Pavlo 141]

8 minut temu, Dunadan napisał:

Your mind is not clear, it's twisted.

Who is using foreign athletes to pretend they are strong?

By your logic, Muir beating Ennaoui this evening will be "good news for Europe"?

Meucci beating the Polish runner of African origins in 2014 was good for Europe? 

and try not to attack my mind in the begining...maybe ad rem is better than ad personam...or maybe....you`re too emotional

Edited August 12, 2018 by Pavlo

[heywoodu 14,954]

Just now, Pavlo said:

you see...but what is the chance that he chooses Kosovo or Bosnia or some other poorer country. At the end it is mainly for "richer" nations and it gives them a bit of unfair advantage

'Richer' nations have an 'unfair' advantage anyway, because for example GBR will be able to invest huge amounts of money in sport X, whereas let's say Kosovo or Albania can't. Athletes who are born outside the country don't make that much of a difference in that (and then again, one question wasn't answered yet: if they're not 'fair' to compete, is it ok for their children to compete? Or is that still not fair? And their grandchildren?). 

[Pavlo 141]

1 minutę temu, Dunadan napisał:

And you think this is true only for Poland? A few days ago you called Amdouni and Crippa a "bunch of Africans"...Amdouni born in France, Crippa lost his parents and was adopted by an Italian family when he was a toddler...and yet you called them "bunch of Africans"

me? are you serious? really? maybe drink a glass of water

[Monzanator 4,487]

Just now, Dunadan said:

And you think this is true only for Poland? A few days ago you called Amdouni and Crippa a "bunch of Africans"...Amdouni born in France, Crippa lost his parents and was adopted by an Italian family when he was a toddler...and yet you called them "bunch of Africans"

 

France and Italy profit from their former status as colonial Empires. Crippa only makes some noise because he 's apparently half-good. Bit like Mo Farah who was GB's poster boy despite being a poor Somalian kid. The colonial Empires are still doing very well indeed.