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3 hours ago, kapil857 said:

 

The increase is primarily from athletics (where it will unfortunately still all be about achieving personal bests and breaking national records as opposed to striving for medals - hopefully we can do that in Tokyo) , and gymnastics if Dipa is counted as having 5 medal opportunites (4 apparatus + all-round). 

 

In medal prospect sports, medal opportunities have remained more or less constant

 

Wrestling - increased from 5 to 8

Shooting - increased from 15 to 18

Badminton - increased from 4 to 5

 

Archery - decreased from 8 to 5

Boxing - Decreased from 8 to 3

Tennis - Decreased from 6 to 3 (though 2 of the 6 from London which have decreased were singles which were definitely not medal prospects)

 

Medal longshots

 

Hockey - increased from 1 to 2

Gymanstics - increased from 0 to 5 (though realistically, only 1 medal opportunity - in the vault - is a true prospect)

Weightlifting - stayed the same at 2

Golf - increased from 0 to 3 (but special case as Golf was not part of London)

 

Other sports

Judo - stayed the same at 1

Swimming - increased from 1 to 2

Rowing - decreased from 2 to 1

Table tennis - increased from 2 to 4

Athletics - increased from 14 to a whopping 30 (as per wiki lists)

 

Total - increased from 69 to 92 (increase of 23; 16 in athletics + 5 in gymnastics + 3 in golf = 24)

good analysis kapil 

 

The first question is has the number of  medal opportunities gone up - yes it has ....the second and more important question is has the number of  possible medal opportunities( oppurtunties in the realm of realistic possibility )  in Rio more than London 

 

List for London would have been like this ....I am including anyone ranked in the  top 10 individual in r sports / top 8 team over the previous 2 years before olympics as realistic  medal prospect ) - Luckily I have been maintaining the ranking scores of Indian athletes for the 2006 every year  ...so I will try to create this table over the next hour or so 

 

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strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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India at the under 20 world atheletics championship best chances are with 

 

Long Jump Yugant - PB 11th best 

Javelin - neeraj chopra - PB best in the world 

400mh - Tamilarasan - 16th best 

4*400m relay - men - 7th best 

womens 1500 - lili -15th best 

womens 4*400m - 5th best 

 

Obviously best chances seem to be in Javelin and womens 4*400

 

 

strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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21 hours ago, sanjaydas said:

More medal opportunities this time.

My point is as follows:

1. Archery: Men's team was not a medal prospect last time. Atanu Das is a genuine medal prospect.

2. Boxing: Only medal prospects were Shiva Thapa and Vijender. Remains at 2 with Shiva Thapa and Vikas

3. Shooing:More or less same.

4. Badminton: Increased

5. Wrestling: Increased to 4 (Yogeshwar, Sandeep Tomar, Narsingh Yadav, Vinesh)

6. Tennis: Similar last time. None

7. Hockey: Its one now. Last time it was zero.

8. Weightlifting: Increased. One

9. Judo, Swimming, Rowing, Table Tennis: Similar to last time. None

10. Athletics: More chances of medal this time.

 

 It's better to count the medal opportunities than the also-ran.

 

 

I'd say the following

 

1. Archery: Men's team was not a medal prospect last time. Atanu Das is a genuine medal prospect. - Disagree. In a highly unpredicatable sport like Archery, with only 12 teams competing, every team is a medal prospect. Our boys lost to JPN in a shootout and JPN lost to USA by a solitary point before USA won silver medal

 

2. Boxing: Only medal prospects were Shiva Thapa and Vijender. Remains at 2 with Shiva Thapa and Vikas - Ummm, Mary returned with a bronze. Sumit was robbed against the Brazilian who went on to win Bronze. Devendro lost a dicey decision to home favorite in QF. Vikas was a world championship bronze medalist going into London and we all know what happened there. Manoj openly cried out "cheating". They were all medal prospects. I'd say Shiva, Vijender and Jai were probably the only ones who lost cleanly.

 

3. Shooing:More or less same.- Agreed, though may be a little better this time. Medal opportunities have gone from 15 to 18 and any of them can spring a surprise

 

4. Badminton: Increased - Agreed, though Saina was probably a little more favored for a medal last time then she is this time. Stronger field now.

 

5. Wrestling: Increased to 4 (Yogeshwar, Sandeep Tomar, Narsingh Yadav, Vinesh) - Agreed, though I don't really see anyone outside of Yogi and Narsingh returning with medals

 

6. Tennis: Similar last time. None - Wouldn't say none, slight in XD, but agreed

 

7. Hockey: Its one now. Last time it was zero.- Agreed, though really wudn't be surprised if they once again unforutnately crash and burn at an olympics/world cup

 

8. Weightlifting: Increased. One - Agreed 

 

9. Judo, Swimming, Rowing, Table Tennis: Similar to last time. None - Agreed

 

10. Athletics: More chances of medal this time.- Disagree. Its the same as last time, none.

 

Gymnastics - increased from 0 to 1, though a long shot

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21 hours ago, sanjaydas said:

Don't know how to react but this is breaking news 

 

Intanon cleared of all charges. A rare occasion in recent times when a doping violation was a false alarm.

 

http://bwfbadminton.com/2016/07/18/ratchanok-intanon-cleared-of-anti-doping-violation/

 

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