India National Thread

[Smit 4]

Olympic dreams over for Sushil Kumar as HC rejects his plea seeking trial with Narsingh Yadav.

[Suneet 16]

3 hours ago, Smit said:

No team can go without AITA's agreement. So Bopanna can't go without Paes 

Which makes things interesting as Leander and Sania's  ranking together is now better than any other Asian pairing

[Prashanth 176]

Mixed doubles should be Sania/Bopana  and Men's doubles Rohan /Paes  if tennis federation forces for both Paes team again we may not get anything...

[Vivek 6]

6 minutes ago, Prashanth said:

Mixed doubles should be Sania/Bopana  and Men's doubles Rohan /Paes  if tennis federation forces for both Paes team again we may not get anything...

problem is that Paes is not a bad person but last time also it was the pro-paes behavior of federation that is creating problems. 

[Prashanth 176]

Here nobody saying other is bad....Nobody here is favoring Paes nor Mahesh group, problem is groups in the tennis...1 group against Single person...All have valid reasons. But this time I strongly feel Rohan /Paes should be doubles and Mixed should be Rohan/ Sania...

 

[Vivek 6]

10 minutes ago, Prashanth said:

Here nobody saying other is bad....Nobody here is favoring Paes nor Mahesh group, problem is groups in the tennis...1 group against Single person...All have valid reasons. But this time I strongly feel Rohan /Paes should be doubles and Mixed should be Rohan/ Sania...

 

I too saying same, Till 2012 london Olympics, Paes was my favorite player than Rohan & Mahesh. But whatever Paes did that time, taking advantage of pro-paes stand of federation, was totally against the spirit of the game as well as humanity. Rohan/Paes is good but can they play together?  

[Suneet 16]

I have not been able to make sense of the no-trial policy. Surely a trial helps decide who among the two wrestlers is better and helps us send the best representative to the Olympics. Why is it such a bad thing that the wrestling federation does not want to consider it? Is it very damaging physically? Surely mental toughness should increase post a trial as then the wrestler should be more confident.

 

Can anyone help me understand? 

[kapil857 31]

59 minutes ago, Suneet said:

I have not been able to make sense of the no-trial policy. Surely a trial helps decide who among the two wrestlers is better and helps us send the best representative to the Olympics. Why is it such a bad thing that the wrestling federation does not want to consider it? Is it very damaging physically? Surely mental toughness should increase post a trial as then the wrestler should be more confident.

 

Can anyone help me understand? 

 

short answer - WFI sucks...

long answer - Sushil punished for missing pro wrestling league

[Sanjib 17]

56 minutes ago, Suneet said:

I have not been able to make sense of the no-trial policy. Surely a trial helps decide who among the two wrestlers is better and helps us send the best representative to the Olympics. Why is it such a bad thing that the wrestling federation does not want to consider it? Is it very damaging physically? Surely mental toughness should increase post a trial as then the wrestler should be more confident.

 

Can anyone help me understand? 

We go to office everyday, sometimes we are not so well, running a little temperature etc, still we manage to work as much as possible, suppose Narsingh is having a bad day for health/any other reasons and he looses, does that prove Sushil is better, all these years Sushil did nothing after the London Olympics, Narsingh is constantly performing, is there no value for that, Sachin scoring a duck, what did that prove???

 

What about the wrestlers in the other 7 weight categories, don't they deserve a trial, by that logic? Why are selectors needed then, just to identify who will perform against whom in trial?

[Dolby 735]

1 hour ago, Suneet said:

I have not been able to make sense of the no-trial policy. Surely a trial helps decide who among the two wrestlers is better and helps us send the best representative to the Olympics. Why is it such a bad thing that the wrestling federation does not want to consider it? Is it very damaging physically? Surely mental toughness should increase post a trial as then the wrestler should be more confident.

 

Can anyone help me understand? 

1) Take the case of archery where all selections are done with trials. Some time back, Deepika missed a lot of time on international circuit as she failed in trials. Her replacements didnt do well and India was able to qualify for Rio only after Deepika came back. 

 

2) In Shooting, almost all the top shooters have repeatedly underscored that there is a big difference in scoring high in trials and shooting in big competitions. Hence, while selecting team, only trial scores should not be considered. 

 

3) Fear of outrage. Imagine the media/fan outrage if there are trials and some relatively unknown wrestler defeats Yogeshwar Dutt in that trial. 

 

Having said this, I personally believe, that as our bench strength improves, we should move towards trials. But, the rule should be clear before qualification process starts.