[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Vojthas 949]

22 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

 

Even though I shouldn't laugh, because it's actually awful.

You lucky citizen of a true monarchy!!!

To destroy your luck:

Spoiler

 

Edited December 19, 2019 by Vojthas

[heywoodu 15,135]

I had missed this.

 

 

One of those single-cell-brained Republicans also said Trump was treated worse than, yeah, Jesus Christ himself   

 

Which now basically means that anyone voting for Trump simply betrays both their faith (if they're Christian) and their entire nation (by thinking Pearl Harbour wasn't as bad as this)  

[Vojthas 949]

35 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

was treated worse than, yeah, Jesus Christ himself

 

35 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

betrays both their faith (if they're Christian)

Well, the way Jesus Christ was treated gave the salvation to the humanity, so...

[heywoodu 15,135]

20 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

 

Well, the way Jesus Christ was treated gave the salvation to the humanity, so...

 

So Trump is actually the Messiah?

[Vojthas 949]

5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

So Trump is actually the Messiah?

Well, according to this, as you called him:

 

1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

single-cell-brained Republican

 yes.

[Olympian1010 7,971]

6 hours ago, Vojthas said:

A newspaper which supports the current regime (and is also supported with their money) added to a few issues a stickers of LGBT-free zones for people to stick on their properties (shops, cafés etc.). That's how it started. Then some local authorities (mostly Eastern, so called Poland B, less developed, less intelligent, strong support of the ruling regime) introduced anti-LGBT declarations officially. I see that a voivode (representative of government in the region) awarded those authorities for that. And that's what the EU is protesting against.

Just another day in a conservative, merciful country, where people want Jesus to be crowned the King of Poland.

Poland and America do have something in common! Except that conservatives here want Jesus to be a strictly American god who rules over the world.

[Vojthas 949]

3 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Poland and America do have something in common! Except that conservatives here want Jesus to be a strictly American god who rules over the world.

If you happen to come to Poland one day, don't try to mention that Jesus or His Mother were Jews.

[Olympian1010 7,971]

1 minute ago, Vojthas said:

If you happen to come to Poland one day, don't try to mention that Jesus or His Mother were Jews.

Of course I wouldn’t. I’d remind everyone that Jesus was a prophet of Islam (just not the greatest one).

[Olympian1010 7,971]

 

[Monzanator 4,499]

13 hours ago, Vojthas said:

Just to be precisely - I'm very far from being nationalistic. I feel myself a patriot, kind of centrist or at least centre-leftist. And knowing our history, I'd say more  - JUST BECAUSE I KNOW our history the Polish nationalism is so hard for me to understand. The "funniest" thing is talking about Catholic Church as the one that was the place where Polish culture was saved while all popes during those 123 years of non-existence were calling for obeying the laws of occupiers. Also the not-anti-nazi pope Pius XII wouldn't have rather supported Poles against Hitler.

Polish nationalism is also antisemitic - which is as surprising as Poles were on a similar way of being exterminated as Jews by Nazi Germany. Of course, there were Poles that collaborated with Hitler, as well as Frenchmen (Vichy), Brits (HRH The Duke of Windsor)...

And what's more important - Poland isn't that nationalistic as @Monzanator shows - the only truly nationalistic party would never have got into the Parliament without the coalition with other right-wingers - either Korwin-Mikke (you know, the sleepy old daddy from the EU Parliament) or Kukiz (rebelious, riotic rockman). The other "right-wing" has such a conservatinve, religious standards that it has two widows of the same husband (only one married in the church), the niece of the party's leader has three children, each with another man, not always the husband (there were also three of them I think), the chair of the Parliament's Family Commission has a child from cheating her husband... And is so anti-communist that the presecutor of the Martial law episode (1981-1983) became the judge of Constitutional Court last month. Not to mention such a Catholic mercy that their political opponents are called "communists", "thiefs", "worse sort of Poles", "treacherous muzzles" or "knaves"...

About the economy - the social programs, which are only to buy people's votes, because the country itself is not prepared for such a huge costs like 500 PLN monthly for every child, are so socialistic as they probably weren't even during the communism years.

No, @Olympian1010, I highly doubt you'll understand this nation. Quite a big part of it (about half) doesn't understand it either.

 

Polish Catholicism has lapsed a lot but it doesn't mean these lapsed Catholics support same-sex marriage and other liberal agendas. That's the big difference between some of the Western countries and Olympian's theory. Just because someone doesn't attend the mass it doesn't mean he/she supports LGBT rights! Polish people quite frankly do  not care about this. We as a nation aren't as ideallistic as those liberals wants us to be.

 

Far-right is a huge minority in Poland, Korwin-Mikke is a joke and everyone knows that. However Law & Justice appears to be strictly far-right by Western standards, in fact it's the post-1989 right-wingers who are trapped in the never-ending conflict first started by Lech Walesa (against then PM Mazowiecki). And guess what, most of the Polish society doesn't give a damn about constitution, the courts, the priests and all that jazz. That's the biggest trick, we simply do not care and that's why the liberal minds don't understand how to wrestle back the power from Law & Justice I don't attend church for several years now but I'll never support the left-wing sociallist parties. Try to figure that out!